2017-2018 Post-Clerkship Hiring Forum

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know whether W&C actually raised their associate salaries?

Williams & Connolly is 200k base for a first year (of course they basically dont have any first years, but that sets the floor)

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know whether W&C actually raised their associate salaries?

Williams & Connolly is 200k base for a first year (of course they basically dont have any first years, but that sets the floor)

I'm referring to the ATL post that came out a few months ago, claiming W&C had raised their salaries (they've been at 200k for first years for at least three years now)

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/11/salary- ... ssociates/

I'm wondering if anyone knows what they're actually paying out now for each class year...then again, considering ATL never updated that article, they might've gotten false info

[Anonymous User]

Anybody have anything to report from Texas markets yet?

Non-Texas D.Ct. clerk here. A few dings here and there, but other than that it's radio silence.

[objctnyrhnr]

Anybody have anything to report from Texas markets yet?

Non-Texas D.Ct. clerk here. A few dings here and there, but other than that it's radio silence.

When should we expect hiring to get moving...if ever? Anybody know about trends from prior years?

[Anonymous User]

Anybody have anything to report from Texas markets yet?

Non-Texas D.Ct. clerk here. A few dings here and there, but other than that it's radio silence.

When should we expect hiring to get moving...if ever? Anybody know about trends from prior years?

Last year looked like March or April. Don't worry about it just yet.

[proleteriate]

Anybody have anything to report from Texas markets yet?

Non-Texas D.Ct. clerk here. A few dings here and there, but other than that it's radio silence.

When should we expect hiring to get moving...if ever? Anybody know about trends from prior years?

Last year looked like March or April. Don't worry about it just yet.

so if we apply right now is it too early?

[Anonymous User]

Anybody have anything to report from Texas markets yet?

Non-Texas D.Ct. clerk here. A few dings here and there, but other than that it's radio silence.

When should we expect hiring to get moving...if ever? Anybody know about trends from prior years?

Last year looked like March or April. Don't worry about it just yet.

so if we apply right now is it too early?

I’ve applied to every large firm in Texas and have received a few straight dings and a few “we’ll hold on to this” emails but straight radio silence otherwise.

[Anonymous User]

Wait can we get back to the FF soap opera? I was getting excited for people to get offers but now everyones over it.

I finally heard back from FF this evening, and it was a call w/ an offer!

Good luck to everyone still waiting.

[Anonymous User]

Wait can we get back to the FF soap opera? I was getting excited for people to get offers but now everyones over it.

I finally heard back from FF this evening, and it was a call w/ an offer!

Good luck to everyone still waiting.

oh wow, congrats! super jelly! glad they are still moving along... would you mind posting up some stats?

[Anonymous User]

Wait can we get back to the FF soap opera? I was getting excited for people to get offers but now everyones over it.

I finally heard back from FF this evening, and it was a call w/ an offer!

Good luck to everyone still waiting.

Congrats indeed. What a bizarre process this has been!

[Anonymous User]

Wait can we get back to the FF soap opera? I was getting excited for people to get offers but now everyones over it.

I finally heard back from FF this evening, and it was a call w/ an offer!

Good luck to everyone still waiting.

Congrats indeed. What a bizarre process this has been!

Congrats! I wonder how many spots they had available. Goodluck to everyone else still waiting

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know whether W&C actually raised their associate salaries?

Williams & Connolly is 200k base for a first year (of course they basically dont have any first years, but that sets the floor)

I'm referring to the ATL post that came out a few months ago, claiming W&C had raised their salaries (they've been at 200k for first years for at least three years now)

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/11/salary- ... ssociates/

I'm wondering if anyone knows what they're actually paying out now for each class year...then again, considering ATL never updated that article, they might've gotten false info

Salaries did go up for each year after the first. I'm sure the scale will leak out at some point (or you could get it from recruiting, who I'm sure are happy to share it), but I don't have the numbers in front of me and don't feel like pulling them up just before they appear on TLS b/c paranoia.

I compared the numbers to market (base and bonus) back when we first found out, and the raises return us to where we've been historically (a bit above market for the first few years, slightly below market for a few years, and then more substantially below market when partnership is on the horizon).

[Anonymous User]

This may be an elementary question, but is post-clerkship firm hiring that common? I would imagine that most people would return to their previous firm where they worked or summered and that the only clerks looking for jobs are (1) those looking to trade up/switch markets and (2) people who've never worked at a firm. Is there something I'm missing? I'll be a clerk in the near future and am curious.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know whether W&C actually raised their associate salaries?

Williams & Connolly is 200k base for a first year (of course they basically dont have any first years, but that sets the floor)

I'm referring to the ATL post that came out a few months ago, claiming W&C had raised their salaries (they've been at 200k for first years for at least three years now)

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/11/salary- ... ssociates/

I'm wondering if anyone knows what they're actually paying out now for each class year...then again, considering ATL never updated that article, they might've gotten false info

Salaries did go up for each year after the first. I'm sure the scale will leak out at some point (or you could get it from recruiting, who I'm sure are happy to share it), but I don't have the numbers in front of me and don't feel like pulling them up just before they appear on TLS b/c paranoia.

I compared the numbers to market (base and bonus) back when we first found out, and the raises return us to where we've been historically (a bit above market for the first few years, slightly below market for a few years, and then more substantially below market when partnership is on the horizon).

What are they paying third years and fourth years right now? Could you at least say that?

[Anonymous User]

This may be an elementary question, but is post-clerkship firm hiring that common? I would imagine that most people would return to their previous firm where they worked or summered and that the only clerks looking for jobs are (1) those looking to trade up/switch markets and (2) people who've never worked at a firm. Is there something I'm missing? I'll be a clerk in the near future and am curious.

Correct

[Anonymous User]

Wait can we get back to the FF soap opera? I was getting excited for people to get offers but now everyones over it.

I finally heard back from FF this evening, and it was a call w/ an offer!

Good luck to everyone still waiting.

oh wow, congrats! super jelly! glad they are still moving along... would you mind posting up some stats?

Thanks everyone. I have no info on how many spots they had or when they’ll be done with the process. I’m going to avoid sharing stats because I’d be pretty identifiable, but if for some reason you really want to know, I will shoot you a PM.

[JakeTappers]

Wait can we get back to the FF soap opera? I was getting excited for people to get offers but now everyones over it.

I finally heard back from FF this evening, and it was a call w/ an offer!

Good luck to everyone still waiting.

oh wow, congrats! super jelly! glad they are still moving along... would you mind posting up some stats?

Thanks everyone. I have no info on how many spots they had or when they’ll be done with the process. I’m going to avoid sharing stats because I’d be pretty identifiable, but if for some reason you really want to know, I will shoot you a PM.

I’d be curious to know in the PM just to gauge my shot but understand if unwilling.

[Anonymous User]

This may be an elementary question, but is post-clerkship firm hiring that common? I would imagine that most people would return to their previous firm where they worked or summered and that the only clerks looking for jobs are (1) those looking to trade up/switch markets and (2) people who've never worked at a firm. Is there something I'm missing? I'll be a clerk in the near future and am curious.

Correct

(3) People who did work at firms and got no offered for whatever reason and were able to hang on to a judicial clerkship as opposed to being completely unemployed ...

[Anonymous User]

movement at Patterson Belknap

interviews already? that was fast!

anyone have a sense about how long Patterson takes to begin making offers?

[Anonymous User]

movement at Patterson Belknap

interviews already? that was fast!

anyone have a sense about how long Patterson takes to begin making offers?

idk about offers but my ding came in today.

[Anonymous User]

movement at Patterson Belknap

interviews already? that was fast!

anyone have a sense about how long Patterson takes to begin making offers?

idk about offers but my ding came in today.

Pre- or post-interview?

[Anonymous User]

movement at Patterson Belknap

interviews already? that was fast!

anyone have a sense about how long Patterson takes to begin making offers?

A thread in 2012 said about a week, but that was for summer offers back when they had an SA program.

FWIW, they have more interviews scheduled for next week if that tells you anything.

[Anonymous User]

Any action on Keker or Willenkin?

[Anonymous User]

any movement in DC?

[Anonymous User]

any movement in DC?

Kellogg is apparently not firing up until Feb?