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- AlwaysPlayTheFox
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Thank you notes
Should thank you notes be sent to chambers after an interview? Is there a consensus on this?
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Re: Thank you notes
I'm a current d.ct. clerk involved in interviewing candidates.
I don't care if you send me a thank you note after our interview, but my co-clerk does. Since you have no way of knowing which clerks will care, and because it involves so little effort on your part, you might as well send individual thank you notes to everyone (clerks and judge, hell, maybe even the JA if she was nice and chatted with you before your interview). The time and postage you save is not worth potentially pissing off somebody with a lot of power over your application (even if its rather unreasonable reason to be pissed off).
I don't care if you send me a thank you note after our interview, but my co-clerk does. Since you have no way of knowing which clerks will care, and because it involves so little effort on your part, you might as well send individual thank you notes to everyone (clerks and judge, hell, maybe even the JA if she was nice and chatted with you before your interview). The time and postage you save is not worth potentially pissing off somebody with a lot of power over your application (even if its rather unreasonable reason to be pissed off).
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Re: Thank you notes
+1. My judge is a little bit old-school and he specifically mentioned my thank you note when chatting for a few minutes after he offered. Keep them short and genuine, but I think it could potentially make a difference (even if it's tiny).Anonymous User wrote:I'm a current d.ct. clerk involved in interviewing candidates.
I don't care if you send me a thank you note after our interview, but my co-clerk does. Since you have no way of knowing which clerks will care, and because it involves so little effort on your part, you might as well send individual thank you notes to everyone (clerks and judge, hell, maybe even the JA if she was nice and chatted with you before your interview). The time and postage you save is not worth potentially pissing off somebody with a lot of power over your application (even if its rather unreasonable reason to be pissed off).
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Re: Thank you notes
Does your judge not de-brief with you and your co-clerks immediately after the candidate leaves chambers?Anonymous User wrote:I'm a current d.ct. clerk involved in interviewing candidates.
I don't care if you send me a thank you note after our interview, but my co-clerk does. Since you have no way of knowing which clerks will care, and because it involves so little effort on your part, you might as well send individual thank you notes to everyone (clerks and judge, hell, maybe even the JA if she was nice and chatted with you before your interview). The time and postage you save is not worth potentially pissing off somebody with a lot of power over your application (even if its rather unreasonable reason to be pissed off).
- rpupkin
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Re: Thank you notes
Sure, no one should care about the cost of time and postage. But that's not the only potential cost here. The downside of thank-you notes is that they hurt you if executed poorly. So, if you're going to send a thank-you note, make damn sure that every word is spelled correctly. And be careful with the "personalize every thank-you note" advice. Highly personalized thank-you notes can be pretty weird.Anonymous User wrote: The time and postage you save is not worth potentially pissing off somebody with a lot of power over your application (even if its rather unreasonable reason to be pissed off).
I get that a few folks value thank-you notes, so perhaps that's reason enough to send them. But I'll say this: I have never—either as a clerk or as an attorney—received a thank-you note that made me feel more positive about someone I interviewed. But I have received post-interview thank-you notes that made me question the person's social judgment. So proceed with caution.
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Re: Thank you notes
He does, but a decision isn't always made immediately during that debriefing. Often we wait until we interview several candidates and then compare them. I can see some clerks (not me) counting a lack of a thank-you note against you in a later hiring discussion with the judge.cheaptilts wrote: Does your judge not de-brief with you and your co-clerks immediately after the candidate leaves chambers?
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Re: Thank you notes
I know this isn't you, but what a batshit reason to reject someone.Anonymous User wrote:He does, but a decision isn't always made immediately during that debriefing. Often we wait until we interview several candidates and then compare them. I can see some clerks (not me) counting a lack of a thank-you note against you in a later hiring discussion with the judge.cheaptilts wrote: Does your judge not de-brief with you and your co-clerks immediately after the candidate leaves chambers?
- mjb447
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Re: Thank you notes
I generally don't send them - there's a sweet spot that I'm never quite able to achieve between totally generic and overly familiar, and I think sending one that's too far in either direction can be worse than not sending anything at all.
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Re: Thank you notes
Same anon as above. I totally get this concern, as I have received some borderline creepy thank-you notes. From talking with my co-clerk (and another current clerk I know in a different chambers who also cares about thank you notes), my sense is that these people view it in a binary fashion. In other words, they care that you took the time to send a note, not so much about its contents.mjb447 wrote:I generally don't send them - there's a sweet spot that I'm never quite able to achieve between totally generic and overly familiar, and I think sending one that's too far in either direction can be worse than not sending anything at all.
As such, my recommendation (concededly based on a sample size of 3 clerks' preferences) would be to send very short, bare bones notes, without much customization unless something clearly jumps out to you. Using this strategy you check the box in the mind of the people who view thank-you notes in a binary fashion, but limit your chance of messing up/sounding creepy by keeping it short and relatively generic. Of course, there are probably crazy people out there who care about content/customization, but as mjb said, its hard to strike the right balance, and you cant please everyone.
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Re: Thank you notes
I do not think I sent thank you notes to either the judge who hired me or the firm that hired me. Might have sent a quick e-mail to the partners at the firm.
I've now been on the giving and receiving end of them and while I know some people still like them and may count it against you for not sending one, I would consider not sending any more thank you notes at all. Unless the interview/conversations ended so abruptly that you didn't have time to thank the people you met with before leaving. (But if you got ushered out that quickly, somehow I have doubts about your chances.)
I've now been on the giving and receiving end of them and while I know some people still like them and may count it against you for not sending one, I would consider not sending any more thank you notes at all. Unless the interview/conversations ended so abruptly that you didn't have time to thank the people you met with before leaving. (But if you got ushered out that quickly, somehow I have doubts about your chances.)