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Government Shutdown
Anyone have any ideas what the implications would be for clerks? I know it happened back in 2013.
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Re: Government Shutdown
Judiciary has the funds to stay open another 3 weeks and change. After that clerks and judges alike will presumably be shut down like the rest of the country. Guidance to current clerks thus far has not gone beyond that.
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Re: Government Shutdown
Depends on the court.Anonymous User wrote:Judiciary has the funds to stay open another 3 weeks and change. After that clerks and judges alike will presumably be shut down like the rest of the country. Guidance to current clerks thus far has not gone beyond that.
Last time there was a shutdown, for example, the Eleventh Circuit declared all of its employees (including clerks) necessary, so they kept working.
(But no government employee--even an essential one--gets paid after appropriations run out. At least not until they inevitably get paid retroactively later on.)
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/sites/defa ... rder40.pdf
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Re: Government Shutdown
Anonymous User wrote:Depends on the court.Anonymous User wrote:Judiciary has the funds to stay open another 3 weeks and change. After that clerks and judges alike will presumably be shut down like the rest of the country. Guidance to current clerks thus far has not gone beyond that.
Last time there was a shutdown, for example, the Eleventh Circuit declared all of its employees (including clerks) necessary, so they kept working.
(But no government employee--even an essential one--gets paid after appropriations run out. At least not until they inevitably get paid retroactively later on.)
Ah. Didn't realize. Well the above still applies to at least majority of ninth circuit.
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/sites/defa ... rder40.pdf
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Re: Government Shutdown
Anyone gotten any guidance if it actually comes to pass this time? Would paychecks get delayed, or is the judiciary's reserve (or whatever you want to call it) good for about three weeks like someone alluded to? Current chambers law clerk if it matters.
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Re: Government Shutdown
I haven't heard anything. I don't expect a shutdown to happen this time.
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Re: Government Shutdown
Like the posters above said, it's a court-by-court question. I'd ask around your courthouse about what happened in the last shutdown.Anonymous User wrote:Anyone gotten any guidance if it actually comes to pass this time? Would paychecks get delayed, or is the judiciary's reserve (or whatever you want to call it) good for about three weeks like someone alluded to? Current chambers law clerk if it matters.
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Re: Government Shutdown
Yeah - even if “the judiciary” has some funds, a lot of budgeting decisions are made locally and I wouldn’t be surprised if different courts handle things differently. What happened last time is probably as good a guide as you’re going to get.BlackAndOrange84 wrote:Like the posters above said, it's a court-by-court question. I'd ask around your courthouse about what happened in the last shutdown.Anonymous User wrote:Anyone gotten any guidance if it actually comes to pass this time? Would paychecks get delayed, or is the judiciary's reserve (or whatever you want to call it) good for about three weeks like someone alluded to? Current chambers law clerk if it matters.
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Re: Government Shutdown
CA9 clerk, here. We were forwarded an email today from the AO. Basically there is enough money from filing fees and what not to keep the judiciary running for about three weeks (paying all employees, paying jurors for service, etc.). Other decisions would have to be made from there.Anonymous User wrote:Anyone gotten any guidance if it actually comes to pass this time? Would paychecks get delayed, or is the judiciary's reserve (or whatever you want to call it) good for about three weeks like someone alluded to? Current chambers law clerk if it matters.
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Re: Government Shutdown
2d Cir says clerks are essential by virtue of the judge, so we keep working and earning a salary. Whether we actually get paid on time during a shutdown, no one can say for sure, but there will be backpay.
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Re: Government Shutdown
what do you think nowlavarman84 wrote:I haven't heard anything. I don't expect a shutdown to happen this time.
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Re: Government Shutdown
Nope, no shutdown is happening.blueapple wrote:what do you think nowlavarman84 wrote:I haven't heard anything. I don't expect a shutdown to happen this time.
Yea, I was dead wrong. I didn't think the Democrats had the balls to follow through on their threats.
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