Same. Just the EEO forms.Anonymous User wrote:I applied months ago and have heard nothing.Anonymous User wrote:Any actual movement at Sidley?
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EEO?Anonymous User wrote:Same. Just the EEO forms.Anonymous User wrote:I applied months ago and have heard nothing.Anonymous User wrote:Any actual movement at Sidley?
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EEOC forms: https://www.eeoc.gov/employers/eeo1surv ... cation.cfmproleteriate wrote:EEO?Anonymous User wrote:Same. Just the EEO forms.Anonymous User wrote:I applied months ago and have heard nothing.Anonymous User wrote:Any actual movement at Sidley?
Sidley sent them out to applicants a while back for a couple of their offices.
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Anon from above: I haven't even received those (applied only to Chicago).Anonymous User wrote:EEOC forms: https://www.eeoc.gov/employers/eeo1surv ... cation.cfmproleteriate wrote:EEO?Anonymous User wrote:Same. Just the EEO forms.Anonymous User wrote:I applied months ago and have heard nothing.Anonymous User wrote:Any actual movement at Sidley?
Sidley sent them out to applicants a while back for a couple of their offices.
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Sidley DC is done hiring. Source: employee who knows
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My impression is: No, you wont notice a difference. In fact, you don't even need to indicate that your judge is a senior judge on your resume. I have spoken with several people who clerked for senior judges who said that during interviews they felt they had a leg up on active-judge clerks because their senior judges had a lot more name recognition among the partners, were more likely to personally know partners, and have a much larger clerk alumni network, however YMMV (depends a lot on your individual judge's reputation).Anonymous User wrote:Current D. Ct. clerk, will be clerking for senior COA judge next term. Curious as to whether and how much my COA judge's senior status will affect post-clerkship employment prospects. Am I likely to notice any tangible difference from the other clerks within my circuit?
I think the biggest exception to the above is if your judge is known to have a severely diminished case-load (e.g., if he only takes a 25% caseload). If that is the case, I can see people looking at your clerkship differently than they would someone who clerked for an active COA judge.
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can you elaborate?Anonymous User wrote:Don't worry - you dodged a bullet there.Anonymous User wrote:D. Ct. Clerk. DC Crowell & Moring rejection. Applied yesterday.
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It's my impression that Munger D.C. is currently actively looking to hire clerks.
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lol noAnonymous User wrote:It's my impression that Munger D.C. is currently actively looking to hire clerks.
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I apologize. The lawyers who work there must have been mistaken.
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Anonymous User wrote:I apologize. The lawyers who work there must have been mistaken.
I don't doubt that they may be adding a SCOTUS clerk/equivalent or two, but to say they are "actively looking to hire clerks" is misleading. From what I've been told, they aren't even letting some of their most qualified LA hires transfer over to DC.
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There are likely clerks on this board with, maybe not scotus clerkships, clerkships and grades that are similar to that of SCOTUS clerks. I don't get why it's wrong to say that Munger D.C. is looking.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:I apologize. The lawyers who work there must have been mistaken.
I don't doubt that they may be adding a SCOTUS clerk/equivalent or two, but to say they are "actively looking to hire clerks" is misleading. From what I've been told, they aren't even letting some of their most qualified LA hires transfer over to DC.
ETA: different anon
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I don't see what is misleading about that statement. I think it goes without saying that in order to get an offer from Munger you need to have top grades and a top clerkship. A lot of people with those qualifications exist.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:I apologize. The lawyers who work there must have been mistaken.
I don't doubt that they may be adding a SCOTUS clerk/equivalent or two, but to say they are "actively looking to hire clerks" is misleading. From what I've been told, they aren't even letting some of their most qualified LA hires transfer over to DC.
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Has anyone heard anything from Baker Botts or Fried Frank DC?
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Fried Frank rejection in mid January two days after emailed application.Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard anything from Baker Botts or Fried Frank DC?
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Updates in DC?
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For me the steady stream of ding emails has slowed to a trickle. The rest will likely never send a rejection or otherwise contact me again.Anonymous User wrote:Updates in DC?
S&C's snail mail ding last week was very S&C. No "despite your impressive qualifications" or "good luck in your legal career," just a flat out "you were not selected."
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A firm I had a callback with earlier this year, but was rejected from, has a posting for a different associate position. What would it look like if I applied for that position? If I sent everything in to the recruiter, should I mention that they've already interviewed me for a different position?Anonymous User wrote:For me the steady stream of ding emails has slowed to a trickle. The rest will likely never send a rejection or otherwise contact me again.Anonymous User wrote:Updates in DC?
S&C's snail mail ding last week was very S&C. No "despite your impressive qualifications" or "good luck in your legal career," just a flat out "you were not selected."
It feels awkward, so any advice helps.
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Oops. Accidentally posted in response to this. And now twice. My apologies. I don't want to clutter the thread, so I'm leaving the post above this alone.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:For me the steady stream of ding emails has slowed to a trickle. The rest will likely never send a rejection or otherwise contact me again.Anonymous User wrote:Updates in DC?
S&C's snail mail ding last week was very S&C. No "despite your impressive qualifications" or "good luck in your legal career," just a flat out "you were not selected."
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I think it would be weird. I also think they are unlikely to interview you again, if you've already had a callback there. However, couldn't hurt to just email the recruiter and mention that you've previously applied and interviewed, and you are wondering if you can be considered for this new position. I imagine the chances are slim to non, but it couldn't hurt.Anonymous User wrote:A firm I had a callback with earlier this year, but was rejected from, has a posting for a different associate position. What would it look like if I applied for that position? If I sent everything in to the recruiter, should I mention that they've already interviewed me for a different position?Anonymous User wrote:For me the steady stream of ding emails has slowed to a trickle. The rest will likely never send a rejection or otherwise contact me again.Anonymous User wrote:Updates in DC?
S&C's snail mail ding last week was very S&C. No "despite your impressive qualifications" or "good luck in your legal career," just a flat out "you were not selected."
It feels awkward, so any advice helps.
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First, who cares if it's "awkward"? The firm already rejected you, so it's not like an awkward interaction now would sour any future relationship. And second, what does it even mean to make that situation "awkward"? A law firm is a business entity, not a human person. Don't make the mistake of projecting complex human emotions onto any decisions made by a hiring committee.I think it would be weird. I also think they are unlikely to interview you again, if you've already had a callback there. However, couldn't hurt to just email the recruiter and mention that you've previously applied and interviewed, and you are wondering if you can be considered for this new position. I imagine the chances are slim to non, but it couldn't hurt.
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Thanks for this reminder. I needed a push to suck up my ego issues.Anonymous User wrote:First, who cares if it's "awkward"? The firm already rejected you, so it's not like an awkward interaction now would sour any future relationship. And second, what does it even mean to make that situation "awkward"? A law firm is a business entity, not a human person. Don't make the mistake of projecting complex human emotions onto any decisions made by a hiring committee.I think it would be weird. I also think they are unlikely to interview you again, if you've already had a callback there. However, couldn't hurt to just email the recruiter and mention that you've previously applied and interviewed, and you are wondering if you can be considered for this new position. I imagine the chances are slim to non, but it couldn't hurt.
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Agreed. I have been offered interviews with firms that I have had unsuccessful callbacks with in the past, though not during the same cycle.Anonymous User wrote:First, who cares if it's "awkward"? The firm already rejected you, so it's not like an awkward interaction now would sour any future relationship. And second, what does it even mean to make that situation "awkward"? A law firm is a business entity, not a human person. Don't make the mistake of projecting complex human emotions onto any decisions made by a hiring committee.I think it would be weird. I also think they are unlikely to interview you again, if you've already had a callback there. However, couldn't hurt to just email the recruiter and mention that you've previously applied and interviewed, and you are wondering if you can be considered for this new position. I imagine the chances are slim to non, but it couldn't hurt.
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For the record, I said it would be "weird." I don't believe I ever said it would be awkward. I don't think there is anything awkward about it, it would just be weird. It would be weird as in, unusual, uncommon, and strange. The result of such a weird/unusual/uncommon/strange application will most likely be that they do not respond or they ding you. But again, as I concluded in my original advice, it couldn't hurt - you've got nothing to lose.Anonymous User wrote:First, who cares if it's "awkward"? The firm already rejected you, so it's not like an awkward interaction now would sour any future relationship. And second, what does it even mean to make that situation "awkward"? A law firm is a business entity, not a human person. Don't make the mistake of projecting complex human emotions onto any decisions made by a hiring committee.I think it would be weird. I also think they are unlikely to interview you again, if you've already had a callback there. However, couldn't hurt to just email the recruiter and mention that you've previously applied and interviewed, and you are wondering if you can be considered for this new position. I imagine the chances are slim to non, but it couldn't hurt.
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Pretty sure he/she was responding to the post that you were also responding to, which noted that the situation "feels awkward."
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