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Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:14 am
by Br3v
shadowofjazz wrote:So after the first "week" of classes, what do you all think?


I kind of just wish I knew what I was doing. I feel like a lot of my "studying" is actually futile.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:24 am
by Tom Joad
If you know Pennoyer v. Neff, you are golden in every class.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:55 am
by 5ky
Br3v wrote:
shadowofjazz wrote:So after the first "week" of classes, what do you all think?


I kind of just wish I knew what I was doing. I feel like a lot of my "studying" is actually futile.


the only thing you need to do now is try to make sure you have good notes from class. anything else this early on will be forgotten by december.

honestly the most helpful thing for me was to have good notes on the cases, so i didn't ever have to open the book to refresh my memory on them when outlining. but there's no one right way to law school, different things work for different people.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:27 am
by NoodleyOne
5ky wrote:
Br3v wrote:
shadowofjazz wrote:So after the first "week" of classes, what do you all think?


I kind of just wish I knew what I was doing. I feel like a lot of my "studying" is actually futile.


the only thing you need to do now is try to make sure you have good notes from class. anything else this early on will be forgotten by december.

honestly the most helpful thing for me was to have good notes on the cases, so i didn't ever have to open the book to refresh my memory on them when outlining. but there's no one right way to law school, different things work for different people.

I've been cleaning up my notes, and when I transcribe them the only thing I put in the notes about cases is normally the issue, how the court ruled on the issue and why. That a good idea?

I know it's neurotic and freaking out and shit, but it's kind of hard not to.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:34 am
by North
5ky wrote:when outlining.

So, this undoubtedly a dumb question, but how do you outline a law school class? Is there a guide somewhere on TLS that explains how to put one together and what's important to have in it? As far as I can tell, it's like a big legal rule tree for all the issues we're going to cover. No?

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:35 am
by danitt
North wrote:
5ky wrote:when outlining.

So, this undoubtedly a dumb question, but how do you outline a law school class? Is there a guide somewhere on TLS that explains how to put one together and what's important to have in it? As far as I can tell, it's like a big legal rule tree for all the issues we're going to cover. No?

I keep wanting to ask this but I feel like it's one of those things everyone knows about and I'm just a dumb. :?

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:51 am
by North
danitt wrote:
North wrote:
5ky wrote:when outlining.

So, this undoubtedly a dumb question, but how do you outline a law school class? Is there a guide somewhere on TLS that explains how to put one together and what's important to have in it? As far as I can tell, it's like a big legal rule tree for all the issues we're going to cover. No?

I keep wanting to ask this but I feel like it's one of those things everyone knows about and I'm just a dumb. :?

Right there with you. The last thing I "outlined" was a research paper in high school. 90% sure that's not what we're talking about here.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:15 pm
by chem
North wrote:
danitt wrote:
North wrote:
5ky wrote:when outlining.

So, this undoubtedly a dumb question, but how do you outline a law school class? Is there a guide somewhere on TLS that explains how to put one together and what's important to have in it? As far as I can tell, it's like a big legal rule tree for all the issues we're going to cover. No?

I keep wanting to ask this but I feel like it's one of those things everyone knows about and I'm just a dumb. :?

Right there with you. The last thing I "outlined" was a research paper in high school. 90% sure that's not what we're talking about here.


It'll be covered and explained later in the semester

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:06 pm
by envisciguy
danitt wrote:
North wrote:
5ky wrote:when outlining.

So, this undoubtedly a dumb question, but how do you outline a law school class? Is there a guide somewhere on TLS that explains how to put one together and what's important to have in it? As far as I can tell, it's like a big legal rule tree for all the issues we're going to cover. No?

I keep wanting to ask this but I feel like it's one of those things everyone knows about and I'm just a dumb. :?


You don't need to worry about outlining till October at the earliest. Right now, just make sure you're doing all the reading.

The outlining process itself varies by person too - there's no "right way" to do it. As trite as this sounds, it's all about doing what works for you.

But again, don't even think about outlining right now.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:12 pm
by desertlaw
An outline is just this: A set of papers that will help you do better on the exam (both through the preparing the outline and the day-of usage of it during the exam). Typically, an outline covers the main rules/issues/cases that you learned in that class. Some people have 10 page outlines, others use 50. Some are your typical Roman Numerals outlines, others are flow-charts and diagrams.

A lot of the time, your outline is really rarely used during the 3-hour exam because the test is such a sprint and you've memorized the outline in your head anyways.

You can start outlining now, but there's so little material that there's not much to outline at this point. But I don't think it can hurt to start thinking/drafting what your outline will be like.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:34 pm
by 5ky
You can go to the SBA website and get lots of examples of outlines: http://www.virginiasba.com/Eservices_ol.aspx

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:18 pm
by Br3v
Clearly others as well but wanted to thank 5ky or helping with some of these questions.

Helps with stress.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:11 pm
by Br3v
Anyone get loan $ yet? Tomorrow is day 7

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:15 pm
by danitt
Br3v wrote:Anyone get loan $ yet? Tomorrow is day 7

I think tomorrow is the day because the refund showed up on either Thursday or Friday in SIS. Unless you didn't do direct deposit, in which case sucks for you. At least another week.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:36 pm
by NoodleyOne
danitt wrote:
Br3v wrote:Anyone get loan $ yet? Tomorrow is day 7

I think tomorrow is the day because the refund showed up on either Thursday or Friday in SIS. Unless you didn't do direct deposit, in which case sucks for you. At least another week.

That's what I'm thinking/hoping. I had to spend my last dough on bread, PB and J this weekend to have something to eat.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:55 am
by NoodleyOne
I need money.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:21 am
by novauva
just got an email saying "Approximately four business days after Aug 26, 2013" my money will be deposited... Do I really have to wait until the 30th? Ive got bills to pay and im out of food

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:44 am
by NoodleyOne
novauva wrote:just got an email saying "Approximately four business days after Aug 26, 2013" my money will be deposited... Do I really have to wait until the 30th? Ive got bills to pay and im out of food

I'm in the same boat. I am super pissed.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:43 pm
by Br3v
NoodleyOne wrote:
novauva wrote:just got an email saying "Approximately four business days after Aug 26, 2013" my money will be deposited... Do I really have to wait until the 30th? Ive got bills to pay and im out of food

I'm in the same boat. I am super pissed.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:30 am
by digifly
Loans are out. Go eat, gentlemen.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:33 am
by North
Yup. Woke up to some fat stacks from Uncle Sam.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:34 am
by Yardbird
digifly wrote:Loans are out. Go eat, gentlemen.
I got mine too! Fun stuff! Ironically we're all poorer now as our bank accounts go up.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:20 am
by shibby
This is a really dumb question but it demands an immediate answer, and SIS is not giving it to me: do we get disbursed living expenses 2x per semester or is this it?

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:23 am
by Tom Joad
shibby wrote:This is a really dumb question but it demands an immediate answer, and SIS is not giving it to me: do we get disbursed living expenses 2x per semester or is this it?

I guess it would depend on how you accepted your financial aid, but the most likely answer is you get paid each semester.

Re: UVA Class of 2016

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:25 am
by shibby
Tom Joad wrote:
shibby wrote:This is a really dumb question but it demands an immediate answer, and SIS is not giving it to me: do we get disbursed living expenses 2x per semester or is this it?

I guess it would depend on how you accepted your financial aid, but the most likely answer is you get paid each semester.
[quote="Tom Joad"]

I think that's right. According to fin aid: "The Direct Loan is normally payable in two disbursements, one-half of the total in each semester."

Can someone else please confirm?