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pancakes3 wrote:

jasperjones wrote:

pancakes3 wrote:fuck this thread. OP now has a bunch of 1L's a freaking out that they're not prepping enough. OP claims that he's trying to help others that have failed by sharing his experiences but he's not.

He's offered zero info on his life after failing and only provided a bunch of armchair study advice for studying while in law school.

Having dogshit class notes and only prepping via an outline is absolutely sufficient to do well in exams. I don't know what else the OP is holding out on but skipping readings and not taking class notes is not the reason he failed. (like, there aren't even any class notes to be had in LRW).

Pancakes, having “dogshit” notes and only preparing an outline is sufficient to succeed on exams? I guess you came into law school with more natural gifts than me, and if you succeeded preparing that way, then kudos, but that’s not a tip I would give to any student, no matter how gifted they are. Anyway, as I mentioned before, that was not the extent my preparation, or lack of it. What you’re not mentioning, as I did, was my intermittent attendance and failure to keep up with the readings. Still, I cannot see a law student having success in school preparing the way I did, which I’ve recommended any student seeking success in school against doing, or the way you seem to be.

this why your thread is toxic. you're in no position to give tips about law school success. i don't know about natural gifts but there are dozens of posters on this site spanning dozens of schools who prepped for finals solely by virtue of making an outline. there are many who don't even make outlines (especially 2Ls and 3Ls). you doing poorly your first semester and then doing worse your second semester means there is something fundamentally flawed in your legal reasoning that has little to do with preparation.

you're just assuming that since you observed your classmates working harder than you and had better class notes then that must be the difference-maker when truthfully it is probably something different all together.

basically it boils down to what you're trying to accomplish with this thread.
- if it's to create a safe place for others who failed out and can come commiserate, you've failed by placing the focus on you giving out study tips rather than focusing on how there is life after law school, and that success is not dependent on LS grades (which I fully support).
- if it's for you to share your story as a cautionary tale for 0L's before they go to law school, you've failed also. instead of us pulling teeth with you and getting to the root of your motivational issues (your passion for fitness or whatever) you should have led with it.
- if it's for you to share your wisdom on 1L studying, then you can just sit on your advice bc it really isn't necessary as there are more qualified posters to address that issue than you.

there is no doubt that you have to prepare for finals, but the universal consensus is that whatever prep you put in during September and October account for like 5% of your grades. the real work comes in November and December with your outline. That alone will get most students to the median grade. Doing practice exams, going to the prof and talking things out, and whatever natural gifts that match with the demands of writing an exam pushes it to getting A's.

jasperjones wrote:Of course I'm writing to my audience: those who've failed out of law school and haven't gone back and graduated or are in danger of failing out. Maybe the thread isn't resonating with you because you're not my target audience.

jasperjones wrote:In writing the original post I didn't see my experiences before and after law school as relevant to my failing out of law school experience (although I did describe my undergrad study habits), hence, the title of the thread.

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My recitation of my experience was to provide a place for a student who may be in the position in which I was to know that someone else has been in their position, for them to hear my experience and know that if they choose to try to turn things around there are resources at their school or on this site they can use to affect change, and if they think this path is not right for them that someone (me) has pursued a different, more positive path, in my, personal experience.

SomewhatLearnedHand wrote:Whatever your intent was is sorta irrelevant now. This thread has helped no one and at best serves as a warning to 0L's to make sure you actually want to go to law school before you get reamed out by 3 years worth of debt.

jasperjones wrote:

estefanchanning wrote:Mods can you please sticky this topic? info here is invaluable

And this?

blueapple wrote:

jasperjones wrote:

estefanchanning wrote:Mods can you please sticky this topic? info here is invaluable

And this?

I'm pretty sure this person was being sarcastic.

Johnnybgoode92 wrote:Jasper's advice has been really helpful. Law school isn't what I thought it'd be and I'm a 1L. Unsure if I'll make it to the spring with how much I've been studing. We'll see.

Johnnybgoode92 wrote:

cavalier1138 wrote:

Johnnybgoode92 wrote:Jasper's advice has been really helpful. Law school isn't what I thought it'd be and I'm a 1L. Unsure if I'll make it to the spring with how much I've been studing. We'll see.

Aren't you that troll who claimed to go to Cooley?

I never said I went there. I was ony thinking about it. I went somewhere else.

cavalier1138 wrote:

Johnnybgoode92 wrote:

cavalier1138 wrote:

Johnnybgoode92 wrote:Jasper's advice has been really helpful. Law school isn't what I thought it'd be and I'm a 1L. Unsure if I'll make it to the spring with how much I've been studing. We'll see.

Aren't you that troll who claimed to go to Cooley?

I never said I went there. I was ony thinking about it. I went somewhere else.

How long can we expect the show to last this time?

UBETutoring wrote:The elitist bullying in this thread is illustrative of why this site has a poor reputation.

SomewhatLearnedHand wrote:Its not elitist to look at the employment data from a school and objectively say that its not very good.