Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby daddyyankee » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:41 am

For those that don't know, Navy JAG submits annual reports to the ABA.
In FY 2017, the JAG Corps received 702 applications. They selected 64 individuals through the SP and 5 through DA.
As of April 2017, there were 72 LTJG's, 404 LT's, 207 LCDR's, 121 CDR's, 73 CAPT's, and 3 FLAG officers (admirals)
https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam ... eckdam.pdf

In FY 2015, they received 584 applications. They selected 47 people through the SP and 15 through DA.
As of June 2015, there were 61 LTJG's, 394 LT's, 204 LCDR's, 128 CDR's, 81 CAPT's, and 2 FLAG officers
https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam ... eckdam.pdf

Other branches also submit annual reports if anyone wants info about those...
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/comm ... s_law.html

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby MrZ1111 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:51 pm

Best of luck to all those waiting on the upcoming board results.
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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby lawschoolgirl12345 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:21 pm

Has anyone gotten results if whether they were accepted for the fall 2017 board? I know the results will be out around dec 9-10, but I wanted to know if we should be expecting an email or phone call before then if there is a chance of selection?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby deadthrone7 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:37 pm

They seem to hold strongly to their 10-week until results window. I’d imagine next Friday calls will come out but who knows.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Elle in Combat Boots » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:26 pm

Applicants who are PROREC'd will receive a phone call, and results for all applicants will be updated on the online application website shortly thereafter. Once that is done, an announcement will be posted on the Navy JAGC Facebook page that results are available.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby lawschoolgirl12345 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:38 am

On my application portal for the status of my application it says "no professionally recommended." That must mean I didn't get it, right? I guess the results of those who did not get recommended are out pretty early.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby deadthrone7 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:41 am

lawschoolgirl12345 wrote:On my application portal for the status of my application it says "no professionally recommended." That must mean I didn't get it, right? I guess the results of those who did not get recommended are out pretty early.


Same. Dinged for the 3rd time. Congratulations to all who get picked up!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby usn26 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:25 pm

deadthrone7 wrote:
lawschoolgirl12345 wrote:On my application portal for the status of my application it says "no professionally recommended." That must mean I didn't get it, right? I guess the results of those who did not get recommended are out pretty early.


Same. Dinged for the 3rd time. Congratulations to all who get picked up!


Also ding #3. At least in time to change my fb photo to the Go Army filter :lol:

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby MrZ1111 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:18 pm

Question for those of you that are already active duty...prior to ODS/NJS do we have to go through another medical clearance/physical of any sort? Or do we just show up at ODS good to go (or do we have medical stuff at ODS?)...worried about having to go through the whole waiver process again...Also, when do we have to do our first PFA?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:35 pm

MrZ1111 wrote:Question for those of you that are already active duty...prior to ODS/NJS do we have to go through another medical clearance/physical of any sort? Or do we just show up at ODS good to go (or do we have medical stuff at ODS?)...worried about having to go through the whole waiver process again...Also, when do we have to do our first PFA?


Once you're at ODS the assumption is you're medically good to go. You're not going to have go through another full blown physical/screening/waiver. There's no point in giving you a waiver to commission only to do the same process again at ODS. That said, they will draw blood again and do labs along with a basic physical to make sure you're okay to participate in PT.

Your first PFA is the first week. You'll do height/weight a few days after arriving, and then do the PRT on Friday. You'll likely do them every Friday, but only the last one is an actual PRT. The first four are "mock" PRTs: you do them to track your progress, but only the last one actually counts for official purposes.

PT at ODS is not hard or anything provided you show up in halfway decent shape/not fat. You don't need to be a hardcore athlete by any means. Just make sure you're working out 2-3 times a week and you'll be more than adequately prepared.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Labrador911 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:44 pm

usn26 wrote:
deadthrone7 wrote:
lawschoolgirl12345 wrote:On my application portal for the status of my application it says "no professionally recommended." That must mean I didn't get it, right? I guess the results of those who did not get recommended are out pretty early.


Same. Dinged for the 3rd time. Congratulations to all who get picked up!


Also ding #3. At least in time to change my fb photo to the Go Army filter :lol:



Any chance the status change was a mistake/glitch?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby lawschoolgirl12345 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:00 pm

I doubt it because I know people who got selected already.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby fuzz » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:56 am

Dinged for the first time. Got three more chances before graduation, so not terribly disappointed. Here's to the spring!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Labrador911 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:35 am

Fall 2017 selectees--please post your stats, if you don't mind. It would be appreciated.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby kensey » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:23 am

Labrador911 wrote:Fall 2017 selectees--please post your stats, if you don't mind. It would be appreciated.


My first TLS post ever in ~3 years, because I've been lurking on/benefitting from this thread forever - thank you so much to everyone, and hope this is helpful to others! My stats:

PR'd 2L Fall 2017 SP, no applications to other branches
175 LSAT
Median at T14
3.8 GPA from Top 20 undergrad
1L Navy JAG summer internship
Exec position on 2 secondary journals
Exec position in 1 student org
Veterans clinic + RA for clinical prof
2 years WE prior to law school
3 LORs: 1 prof, 2 from supervisors (attorneys) at pre-law school job
I thought my interview went well
And I speak a critical language? Not sure whether/how that factored in

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby lawschoolgirl12345 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:25 pm

Does anyone know when Army JAG Corps summer internship selectees will be notified? I tried to discuss this on the army jag page but received no response. I am hoping some of the Navy JAG folks are also interested or know about the timelines for Army JAG internship. I have applied but not heard back about whether I got accepted or not.

Thank you!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:53 am

This was released from the powers that be about the most recent selection board:

“NAVY JAG CORPS CONTINUES TO BUILD A DIVERSE AND HIGHLY QUALIFIED TEAM

Recruiting the right team is the foundation of a successful future for our Corps. Building a JAG Corps that is rich in integrity, quality, and diversity is only possible through sustained involvement with law students and leaders in the legal community. Your superb efforts make the Navy JAG Corps an employer of choice, as evidenced by the results of the most recent accession selection board.

The Fall 2017 Accession Selection Board was held 14-16 November 2017. The board was composed of . . . [members].

The board used the "whole person" concept to select a diverse team of highly qualified applicants possessing the highest potential for JAG Corps service. Although strong academic credentials were important, board members equally considered an applicant's demonstrated leadership skills, work experience, quality of character and ability to overcome adversity, motivation, cultural expertise, performance in the structured interview, public service, and prior military service. The successful completion of a Navy JAG Corps internship or externship was also given favorable consideration.

This board professionally recommended 55 Student Program candidates from a pool of 271 impressive applicants, for a selection rate of 20%. The class includes 29 women and 26 men from various backgrounds representing 39 different law schools. Twenty-two have completed internships or externships with the Navy JAG Corps. Our future colleagues are those who continue the high academic and intellectual reputation of the Navy JAG Corps by having participated in moot court and mock trial competitions, as well as having served as editors for law review and other law school journals. They speak a host of languages including Japanese, Tagalog, Arabic, Korean and Mandarin and have studied or worked abroad in places such as Peru, Ghana, Mexico, Japan, Cambodia, Kuwait, Qatar and Guatemala.

Five of our futurejudge advocates have prior military experience and have completed deployments in Afghanistan and throughout the Pacific. Other individuals have worked for Teach for America, the
Peace Corps, and in various state government positions. They have helped build hospitals in Guatemala, volunteered for tsunami disaster relief in Japan, and founded an inner-city public high school tutoring program. The diversity of skills and backgrounds these impressive candidates bring to the table will strengthen the ability of the JAG Corps to provide superb legal solutions across the full spectrum of missions and operational environments.

Recruiting in the JAG Corps is an all-hands effort, and judge advocates continue to do an incredible job of reaching the very best talent.”

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby MrZ1111 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:56 pm

S. Goodman wrote:This was released from the powers that be about the most recent selection board:

“NAVY JAG CORPS CONTINUES TO BUILD A DIVERSE AND HIGHLY QUALIFIED TEAM

Recruiting the right team is the foundation of a successful future for our Corps. Building a JAG Corps that is rich in integrity, quality, and diversity is only possible through sustained involvement with law students and leaders in the legal community. Your superb efforts make the Navy JAG Corps an employer of choice, as evidenced by the results of the most recent accession selection board.

The Fall 2017 Accession Selection Board was held 14-16 November 2017. The board was composed of . . . [members].

The board used the "whole person" concept to select a diverse team of highly qualified applicants possessing the highest potential for JAG Corps service. Although strong academic credentials were important, board members equally considered an applicant's demonstrated leadership skills, work experience, quality of character and ability to overcome adversity, motivation, cultural expertise, performance in the structured interview, public service, and prior military service. The successful completion of a Navy JAG Corps internship or externship was also given favorable consideration.

This board professionally recommended 55 Student Program candidates from a pool of 271 impressive applicants, for a selection rate of 20%. The class includes 29 women and 26 men from various backgrounds representing 39 different law schools. Twenty-two have completed internships or externships with the Navy JAG Corps. Our future colleagues are those who continue the high academic and intellectual reputation of the Navy JAG Corps by having participated in moot court and mock trial competitions, as well as having served as editors for law review and other law school journals. They speak a host of languages including Japanese, Tagalog, Arabic, Korean and Mandarin and have studied or worked abroad in places such as Peru, Ghana, Mexico, Japan, Cambodia, Kuwait, Qatar and Guatemala.

Five of our futurejudge advocates have prior military experience and have completed deployments in Afghanistan and throughout the Pacific. Other individuals have worked for Teach for America, the
Peace Corps, and in various state government positions. They have helped build hospitals in Guatemala, volunteered for tsunami disaster relief in Japan, and founded an inner-city public high school tutoring program. The diversity of skills and backgrounds these impressive candidates bring to the table will strengthen the ability of the JAG Corps to provide superb legal solutions across the full spectrum of missions and operational environments.

Recruiting in the JAG Corps is an all-hands effort, and judge advocates continue to do an incredible job of reaching the very best talent.”



That's a huge increase in selection % and # selected than past boards...also a significant drop in the number of applicants.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Fed_Atty » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:39 pm

As the economy improves it will likely be easier and easier to get into the JAG corps. When the economy was really bad the selection rate was in the low single digits. Now is a good time to join, the corps (Navy) is expanding and promotion rates are very good.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby twenty » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:18 pm

It's also worth pointing out that although former interns were 7% of the applicant pool, they were 40% of the selects. I wouldn't be at all surprised if almost everyone who completed a summer internship with Navy and applied got a slot.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby shintopig » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:30 pm

MrZ1111 wrote:That's a huge increase in selection % and # selected than past boards...also a significant drop in the number of applicants.


It was up to 24% a couple years ago. Since the corps is expanding the acceptance rate has been higher than it has been historically. Once plus'd up though I think it'll drop back to the regular 10%-ish level.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby CJLaw09 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:59 am

Finally! I’ve been searching for a resource and community like this for months. It’s been hell hodge-podging info from various sites. I spent the last four hours going through this whole thread. Outstanding.

Anyway, I am a DA applicant for Spring 2018. I have been in private practice since 2009 and was an enlisted soldier in Army National Guard for 7 years (discharged honorably a LONG time ago) I interview in DC in two weeks and am trying to finish uploading all my docs (few LOR’s out, last 5 FITREPS, and photo).

I have many questions, but will save them for another time. If anyone needs anything from me, just holler.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby CJLaw09 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:05 am

I’ve seen the stats of only a few DA selections on this thread, so my question is: will the accumulation of real world legal experience negate mediocre grades/stats the further one gets away from law school?

I ask because I was a non-trad law school student (married with 2 kids, went nights to unranked school), who worked a full-time professional job while attending. I ran a group home for abused and neglected teenage boys. So,my grades were average. But, I’ve been practicing for 9 years now, have extensive trial experience in both criminal and custody, negotiated nearly a million dollars in settlements in personal injury cases, have hundreds of hours of experience writing and probating wills, etc. In my favorite LOR, our President Judge called me one of the top 5 trial litigators in our county. Will that matter? Or will my mediocre grades sink me?

I’m going to be 40 in March, so I am guessing I will only have one or two bites at this apple.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby MrZ1111 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:57 am

CJLaw09 wrote:I’ve seen the stats of only a few DA selections on this thread, so my question is: will the accumulation of real world legal experience negate mediocre grades/stats the further one gets away from law school?

I ask because I was a non-trad law school student (married with 2 kids, went nights to unranked school), who worked a full-time professional job while attending. I ran a group home for abused and neglected teenage boys. So,my grades were average. But, I’ve been practicing for 9 years now, have extensive trial experience in both criminal and custody, negotiated nearly a million dollars in settlements in personal injury cases, have hundreds of hours of experience writing and probating wills, etc. In my favorite LOR, our President Judge called me one of the top 5 trial litigators in our county. Will that matter? Or will my mediocre grades sink me?

I’m going to be 40 in March, so I am guessing I will only have one or two bites at this apple.


I don't think average grades are ever a killer, and they always take people from a range of law schools (the JAG Corps doesn't just have lawyers from T50 law schools). You'll probably want to stress why you want to be in the Navy and why, after 9 years of practice, you're just now applying. While the age limit for the Navy, I think, is 42 y/o, it's pretty rare to see a newly commissioned officer that's over 30 (except warrants, LDO's, inter-service accessions, or some direct commission reserve jobs). Not that that's going to be a silver bullet, but it's something to keep in mind. You might also want to look into Army National Guard JAG programs or reserve programs if you're dead-set on being a JAG and want a few more options.




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