GUNNERS UNITE!arvcondor wrote: Speaking of which, I'm open to looking for places with other TLSers.
But isn't that exactly what a sociopath would say??? I'm on to you condor...arvcondor wrote: I'm totally fucking awesome and not sociopathic...
GUNNERS UNITE!arvcondor wrote: Speaking of which, I'm open to looking for places with other TLSers.
But isn't that exactly what a sociopath would say??? I'm on to you condor...arvcondor wrote: I'm totally fucking awesome and not sociopathic...
The Temple campus is no more unsafe than any other given area of the city, and is safer in many ways. Just search "Temple" on craigslist and you'll find loads of listings.Peace of Mind wrote:I was admitted off the waitlist and I am trying to get an idea of where to live. I have searched these boards but I am mostly finding areas that are not right next to the school. Are there any areas immediately surrounding Temple that are good/safe/law student friendly to live? What about student housing? Is it really that bad? I was thinking of living in Center City which according to mapquest is only a 10 minute subway ride from Erie station. That’s the best I’ve seen so far, thoughts? I want to live as close to campus as possible but I want to be safe of course Thanks!
I figure that living with a few other TLSers will create an environment in which beratement is ever looming and thus I'll have no options but to constantly work.x7227 wrote:GUNNERS UNITE!arvcondor wrote: Speaking of which, I'm open to looking for places with other TLSers.
First of all congrats on your admission!Peace of Mind wrote:I was admitted off the waitlist and I am trying to get an idea of where to live. I have searched these boards but I am mostly finding areas that are not right next to the school. Are there any areas immediately surrounding Temple that are good/safe/law student friendly to live? What about student housing? Is it really that bad? I was thinking of living in Center City which according to mapquest is only a 10 minute subway ride from Erie station. That’s the best I’ve seen so far, thoughts? I want to live as close to campus as possible but I want to be safe of course Thanks!
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How I envision living with other TLSers based on your vision...arvcondor wrote:I figure that living with a few other TLSers will create an environment in which beratement is ever looming and thus I'll have no options but to constantly work.x7227 wrote:GUNNERS UNITE!arvcondor wrote: Speaking of which, I'm open to looking for places with other TLSers.
Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.Peace of Mind wrote:stuff
I walked around Temple today just to get a feel for some of the places I was looking at....this was one of them. South of Jefferson the neighborhood started turning quick (at least that was my observation). The apartments, modules was right up the street, look nice enough peering in, but I crossed it off my list when two groups started yelling at each other across the street (completely random occurrence, but still...)Peace of Mind wrote: 1311 N 15th Street, Philadelphia, PA
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arvcondor wrote: Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.
I wasn't being mean (or at least not trying to be), but I think much of TLS is getting people to reevaluate their decisions so they don't make bad ones. When I asked if someone was paying her rent, I wasn't doing it spitefully. If they are, then go for it; live it up. If not, it might be a good idea to reconsider.x7227 wrote:arvcondor wrote: Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.
Be nice...she's entitled to spend her money the way she wants to. I don't critique your crippling addiction to kiwis (at least I think that's a kiwi...that would be the weirdest condor I've ever seen). And if she splits it, its 1000/mo, which really isn't all that terrible (and she should be negotiating these rates down...a lot). Heck I'm paying more than I should to live by myself for 1L just to make sure I don't go 3/3 on bat-shit crazy roommates. However, the only thing I'm using my apartment for 1L is sleeping, eating, and maybe building a little fort...so I didn't go too crazy.
No one is paying my rent but me. I have very little debt from undergrad and I thought for my first year of law school it would be a good investment to live in a nice safe area even if it is a little pricey. Coming from California where rent for an apartment smaller than these and with less amenities are twice that at least in LA I didn't think $1,000 a month was too much, I thought that was reasonable for such a nice place. When I was doing my apartment search today I was looking for places that were at most 15 minutes(prefer 10 minutes) from the law school(mainly by subway) and these are the places I found. My biggest concern with an apartment is distance time wise because I do not want to commute. I worked full time in undergrad and commuted which is something I do not want to do in 1L; I don't want commuting to hurt my studies. After reading these forums I keep finding that anywhere close to the school is either ridden with undergrads or dangerous and these are things I'd prefer to avoid. I have also read that center city is a good option as well as rittenhouse square, but I know nothing about renting in Philly, the internet is the best I can do for now. While doing my search I read reviews on apartments as well and these are the ones that I did not find too many negative reviews on. If there are apartments close to the school and are less expensive I'd love to hear about them. I'm generally a frugal person but when it comes to housing in a city where I know no one and my family is on the opposite side of the country I think security and peace of mind(I know that's my username ) is worth the expense or at the very least consideration.arvcondor wrote:Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.Peace of Mind wrote:stuff
Good to know about south of Jefferson. Thanks!x7227 wrote:I walked around Temple today just to get a feel for some of the places I was looking at....this was one of them. South of Jefferson the neighborhood started turning quick (at least that was my observation). The apartments, modules was right up the street, look nice enough peering in, but I crossed it off my list when two groups started yelling at each other across the street (completely random occurrence, but still...)Peace of Mind wrote: 1311 N 15th Street, Philadelphia, PA
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As for your other choices, the Packard building has some really nice apts, but its pricey. I think I've got a nice place lined up right near there in the loft district for 1L. Its really an up and coming neighborhood, imo.
The Versailles, 257 apartments, Al Shapiro and 1518 spruce are all in the rittenhouse square area and just a lot of fun to be around (again but pricey for what you get).
The metropolitan is sorta in an in-between neighborhood that was mostly offices 10 years ago, but is slowly becoming a bridge between the loft district and CC...I know absolutely nothing about it, but its not a bad neighborhood at all
arvcondor wrote: Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.
Be nice...she's entitled to spend her money the way she wants to. I don't critique your crippling addiction to kiwis (at least I think that's a kiwi...that would be the weirdest condor I've ever seen). And if she splits it, its 1000/mo, which really isn't all that terrible (and she should be negotiating these rates down...a lot). Heck I'm paying more than I should to live by myself for 1L just to make sure I don't go 3/3 on bat-shit crazy roommates. However, the only thing I'm using my apartment for 1L is sleeping, eating, and maybe building a little fort...so I didn't go too crazy.
You can definitely find an apartment closer to Temple than Center City in lovely neighborhoods without dropping a grand in rent. Even Northern Liberties, which is one of the more upscale areas, would be more affordable for a two-bedroom.Peace of Mind wrote:other stuffarvcondor wrote:Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.Peace of Mind wrote:stuff
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Thanks! Can you recommend any apartments specifically? I'll check that.neighborhood out. Do you think i should just try to arrange a trip to philly to apartment hunt?arvcondor wrote:You can definitely find an apartment closer to Temple than Center City in lovely neighborhoods without dropping a grand in rent. Even Northern Liberties, which is one of the more upscale areas, would be more affordable for a two-bedroom.Peace of Mind wrote:other stuffarvcondor wrote:Is there someone paying your rent for you or something? If not, I'd really advise staying away from pricey Center City apartments while in 1L.Peace of Mind wrote:stuff
And to reiterate, the area immediately around Temple is safe as can be.
I can't really recommend too many specific buildings other than directing you to some of the renovated factories-cum-lofts. Check out the soap factory, the cigar factory, and whatever other apartments with "factory" you can find. (They all really were those things at one point.)Peace of Mind wrote: Thanks! Can you recommend any apartments specifically? I'll check that.neighborhood out. Do you think i should just try to arrange a trip to philly to apartment hunt?
how did you like the evening division?thwalls wrote:I just finished my 1L year in the evening division. So I guess I should be welcoming you folks to the class of 2014. I hope you guys get Rahdert for Torts, the guy rules.
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Love it. The people are great and the course selection is darn near identical to the day offerings. Not looking forward to Con Law next semester though.oreo3405 wrote:how did you like the evening division?thwalls wrote:I just finished my 1L year in the evening division. So I guess I should be welcoming you folks to the class of 2014. I hope you guys get Rahdert for Torts, the guy rules.
Just on the whole: a smaller apt for more money. Plus a lot of those apts highlight their "gym" and "pool" (ect.) amenities which are usually pretty crappy on the whole and not something you should be factoring into your decision (but you're still paying for them every single month).Peace of Mind wrote: ...when you say pricey for what you get... can you elaborate?
I dunno where "out here" is, but unless its mars, you're never going to be laughed out of a property management office, or car dealership, heck almost anything is negotiable if you know how to do it. The worst that happens is a polite no, and they'll still take your money every month if you want to give it to them at full price. I don't think I've ever paid asking price for an apt...ever. You just have to realize you have something they want, namely your money and presence. They have a mortgage too, every month that they don't have a tenant in that apt is a lost opportunity to them and money out of their pocket. Especially if you're signing a year-long lease, you have a lot of leverage to try and push that price down (because hey, they'd rather give you a month of free rent and have you guarantee at least 11 more months of steady income). If you're just as likely to walk down the street to a competing apartment complex, and they need to fill that space, the price can get very elastic. You just have to reach that point where its a good deal for you and a good one for them too, and not a good deal for you and a great deal for them.Can you really negotiate the rent down??? I have never heard of that, I don't think that'd fly out here. You;d be laughed out of the property management office.
Where would you reccommend I live?
Stuffed? I don't know what you're talking about... Hobbes is a ferocious tiger! Who just happens to love tuna-fish sandwiches, as do all tigers....tigers will do anything for a tuna-fish sandwich!Peace of Mind wrote:arvcondor wrote:Peace of Mind wrote:Absolutely! Philly is a great city to visit, and you might as well make sure of the apartment you're getting for 1L. See some apartments, visit the fantastic museums (if that's your thing, we have some of the best in the world, though you wont get another chance to see them for at least 3 years ), catch a Phillies game...make a trip out of it!Do you think i should just try to arrange a trip to philly to apartment hunt?
In general I agree with you, but I'd caution that you have to take the normal precautions of a large city. Heck there was a shooting at Camac and Susquehanna (very north end of campus) where a kid was killed in broad daylight during an attempted robbery just this week.And to reiterate, the area immediately around Temple is safe as can be.
Do I feel safe going to school there? Absolutely! Do I feel safe enough to not monitor my surroundings while I'm on campus? No way... But I do the same when I'm in center city or rittenhouse square, so take that for what its worth.
I love that stuffed animal Hobbs by the way... awesome!
Thank you!arvcondor wrote:I can't really recommend too many specific buildings other than directing you to some of the renovated factories-cum-lofts. Check out the soap factory, the cigar factory, and whatever other apartments with "factory" you can find. (They all really were those things at one point.)Peace of Mind wrote: Thanks! Can you recommend any apartments specifically? I'll check that.neighborhood out. Do you think i should just try to arrange a trip to philly to apartment hunt?
Aside from that, just check out a Google map of the city and see which neighborhoods are nearby. You'll mostly find areas like NoLibs, Fairmount, Temple area and some of the apartments on Spring Garden Street to be close to the school and nice/affordable. If you can do a trip, by all means do so. I wouldn't really put a deposit down on a place on spec, so make sure you at least see that the walls aren't brown with house centipedes before you rent. And yeah, those things exist, and they're horrifying, and they're rampant in the city. In fact, here they are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutigera_coleoptrata.
I'll just put out there to you and anyone else who isn't familiar with the city: If you're making a trip over here or are getting settled in for school, don't hesitate to PM me and meet up. I'm always happy to show people around Philly, similarly to how a 60-year-old is excited to play Dark Side of the Moon to a teenager for the first time.
[/quote][/quote][/quote]x7227 wrote:that stuffed animal Hobbs by the way... awesome!
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Tigers LOVE pepper. They HATE cinnamon!Peace of Mind wrote: Tigers like cinnamon too... don't forget that
Oh yeah!! My bad! I Mixed it up in my head lolx7227 wrote:Tigers LOVE pepper. They HATE cinnamon!Peace of Mind wrote: Tigers like cinnamon too... don't forget that
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