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Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:43 pm
by DoubleChecks
amazon is your friend guys...though i guess some may be wary of getting cheaper used books off amazon for the first semester. i got everything new the first semester -- unnecessary supplements that i never used, textbooks, etc. -- cost me $900 :O

second semester used amazon and b&n, got used books that were in great condition, got lucky that not all my classes required textbooks, and spent only $60 :O

i would not say that my first semester texts were significantly better (and certainly not $840 better!) than my second semester texts

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:28 pm
by bedefan
Section 6 we've got...

Torts: M. Chamallas (visiting)
Property: C. Donahue
Leg & Reg: M. Stephenson
Civ Pro: J. Goldsmith
LRW: A. White

Any insights on these guys? Guys used gender neutral-like.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:04 pm
by celiak
Anybody know where we can find syllabi online? I keep seeing only the 2010-11 course sites still up...

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:29 pm
by smittytron3k
bedefan wrote:Section 6 we've got...

Torts: M. Chamallas (visiting)
Property: C. Donahue
Leg & Reg: M. Stephenson
Civ Pro: J. Goldsmith
LRW: A. White

Any insights on these guys? Guys used gender neutral-like.
charlie donahue is a historian of medieval law and teaches how you would expect a medieval historian too (read: lots of obscure future interests/estates in land stuff). martha chamallas is a feminist scholar who i know nothing about. i hear great things about stephenson (young, rising star, social science orientation) and goldsmith (used to be the director of the OLC in the bush administration, prolific writer, supposedly very good).

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:38 am
by nixxers
rui wrote:Sec 1:

Contracts: Warren
Civ Pro: M. Ratner (Visiting)
Torts: K Hylton (Visiting)
LegReg: Manning
LRW: Bradt
huh, when I looked it up it said Stella Elias Burch for LRW. Just checked again and it still says that. Do they divide sections up for LRW?

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:55 am
by DoubleChecks
nixxers wrote:
rui wrote:Sec 1:

Contracts: Warren
Civ Pro: M. Ratner (Visiting)
Torts: K Hylton (Visiting)
LegReg: Manning
LRW: Bradt
huh, when I looked it up it said Stella Elias Burch for LRW. Just checked again and it still says that. Do they divide sections up for LRW?
yes, in half. 40/40 2 LRWs per section

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:26 pm
by gilagarta
Calla Lily wrote:Sec 7:

Torts - Jed Shugerman
Criminal Law - Daniel Meltzer
Contracts - Todd Rakoff
Civ Pro - Charles Silver (visiting)
LRW - Michael Coenen

I know that you said there aren't many Sec. 7 people floating around, but just wanted to see if you knew or heard anything about these professors.
Meltzer taught Crim for Section 5 last year. He was awesome (soft-spoken, intense, crazy brilliant, really interesting class discussion).

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:28 pm
by gilagarta
Also - Rubenstein is a legend - everyone who has him thinks he's the best professor ever.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:36 pm
by delusional
gilagarta wrote:Also - Rubenstein is a legend - everyone who has him thinks he's the best professor ever.
The one teaching Civ Pro for section 3? Yay.

I bumped into an alum last night who was a big fan of Professor Singer - he mentioned it before I told him that Singer would be our section head.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:36 pm
by Calla Lily
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Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:42 pm
by rv11
Any idea when we'll hear about locker assignments or book lists?

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:19 pm
by delusional
Can a 2 or 3L confirm that the list of books on the Coop website is likely to be accurate for particular sections?

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:34 am
by gilagarta
delusional wrote:Can a 2 or 3L confirm that the list of books on the Coop website is likely to be accurate for particular sections?
Yes, at least it has always been accurate for me.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:01 pm
by jff207
Are you guys finding course sites online? I want to look up syllabi as well as books but can't.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:07 pm
by InLikeFlint
jff207 wrote:Are you guys finding course sites online? I want to look up syllabi as well as books but can't.
On a related note, does anyone else find the website unbelievably annoying? Having to sign in separately to all the different sites is really frustrating. Also, no, I don't know how to find anything other than my class schedule.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:33 pm
by GeePee
InLikeFlint wrote:
jff207 wrote:Are you guys finding course sites online? I want to look up syllabi as well as books but can't.
On a related note, does anyone else find the website unbelievably annoying? Having to sign in separately to all the different sites is really frustrating. Also, no, I don't know how to find anything other than my class schedule.
Stay tuned -- Student Government is trying to work on this some.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:04 pm
by bballfan
Adding My 0.02

Stella for LRW is intense but you will learn a ton.

Greiner is intense as well. If you mesh with his teaching style you will do well. If not, then good luck to you. He is obsessed with his quest for tenure and Harry Potter. Awkward but likeable guy.

Zittrain- lots of people are obsessed with him. He is clearly brilliant but could be a better teacher. He does use slides which is helpful.

Henry Smith- he is soooo sweet but you won't learn a thing. He wrote the book so expect regurgitation and long lectures on the origins of the pictures. He uses panels so you will know which days you are up for. That being said- everyone loves the man.

http://www.campusbookrentals.com- A good look if you are not a super heavy writer/highlighter in books (although they allow you to). Anything is better then paying a G for books you will be stuck with at the end of the summer.

Enjoy the rest of you summer. Engage in as much nonsense as you can. Because once things get going, you will wish you had it back.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:06 pm
by bballfan
gilagarta wrote:
delusional wrote:Can a 2 or 3L confirm that the list of books on the Coop website is likely to be accurate for particular sections?
Yes, at least it has always been accurate for me.
It is usually right but I've had issues before (incorrect edition, listing things as mandatory that were optional etc). You may want to wait till you get a syllabus for your classes.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:55 pm
by delusional
So, any older students have any suggestions for what to do before orientation? The first day's reading for each class? Memorize the syllabus? Read the student handbook? Anything else?

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:36 pm
by Nom Sawyer
delusional wrote:So, any older students have any suggestions for what to do before orientation? The first day's reading for each class? Memorize the syllabus? Read the student handbook? Anything else?
Chill, explore the campus, and meet new friends. Nothing you do in the first month of law school will really affect your grades. It definitely will affect how much you enjoy the rest of your 1L year though.

Also Note on Casebooks: Sigh up for Amazon Prime Student (Free year of super fast/free shipping) and make sure you always check to see if you can buy books there first. Its much much cheaper than buying at the COOP.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:21 pm
by kajosa
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Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:59 am
by Nom Sawyer
kajosa wrote:Any thoughts about renting books? Will I wish to have any of my first year books in the future?
Eh renting books should be fine. Most likely you won't need your books in the future (unless you want to set up some bookshelf that looks pretty). Even then you can just buy them online once they're not the latest edition for like pennies on the dollar.

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:31 pm
by bedefan
Anybody know:

1- where the storied free coffee is?
2- when it's available?

Wasted way too much time right now trying to find it on the hls website...

Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:35 pm
by kajosa
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Re: Harvard Law 2014

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:46 pm
by delusional
That whole TLS "law school can be a nine to five thing"? Yeah, not so much.