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LS-boundNYC wrote:So I have a dilemma, and I'd be interested in hearing my classmates' thoughts. I'm in the Evening Division, and right now, I'm planning on working one part-time job averaging 20-hours a week. I'm now in the second phase of an interview with a VERY desirable non-profit for a second part-time job that would be 15-20 hours a week. Neither job is legal, but each is substantive in its own respect. I feel like this is do-able, but would I be shooting myself in the foot if I took both jobs? Maybe I just need a cold dose of reality to shock me out of this...

Very hard to say. My job is about 35 (sometimes 40) hrs/wk but I have a family, too. I have lots of friends who worked Hard Core 40 hr/wk gigs and did quite well in school; my concern would be juggling the 2 positions. Honestly? Your 1L grades are SO IMPORTANT that I would just take one of these jobs and try to parley the other into a summer gig.

nygrrrl wrote:

LS-boundNYC wrote:So I have a dilemma, and I'd be interested in hearing my classmates' thoughts. I'm in the Evening Division, and right now, I'm planning on working one part-time job averaging 20-hours a week. I'm now in the second phase of an interview with a VERY desirable non-profit for a second part-time job that would be 15-20 hours a week. Neither job is legal, but each is substantive in its own respect. I feel like this is do-able, but would I be shooting myself in the foot if I took both jobs? Maybe I just need a cold dose of reality to shock me out of this...

Very hard to say. My job is about 35 (sometimes 40) hrs/wk but I have a family, too. I have lots of friends who worked Hard Core 40 hr/wk gigs and did quite well in school; my concern would be juggling the 2 positions. Honestly? Your 1L grades are SO IMPORTANT that I would just take one of these jobs and try to parley the other into a summer gig.

just wanted throw my $0.02 as a fellow evening student (entering my 3LE year). i agree with what nygrrrl said, specifically the importance of 1L grades, but my personal advice would put a slightly different spin on it: I would suggest to only take the second job if it will help you (in a somewhat significant way) pay for school/rent. otherwise, i just think your schedule may bit a bit jumbled, in fact, maybe too jumbled.

with that being said (and i hope to not contradict myself), you should be prepared to have A LOT of free time as an evening student working only 20hrs/week. i personally work 50-60hrs/wk, but that is one job, and my focus is on that one place, not multiple. you should use this extra time not only to prepare for classes/exams, but also to do things you enjoy (socialize, exercise, enjoy nyc). i personally think the problem with most law students who do not experience a great deal of success is that they eat/sleep/breathe law school

let me know if you have any other questions about going to school while working

jrock12 wrote: just wanted throw my $0.02 as a fellow evening student (entering my 3LE year). i agree with what nygrrrl said, specifically the importance of 1L grades, but my personal advice would put a slightly different spin on it: I would suggest to only take the second job if it will help you (in a somewhat significant way) pay for school/rent. otherwise, i just think your schedule may bit a bit jumbled, in fact, maybe too jumbled.

with that being said (and i hope to not contradict myself), you should be prepared to have A LOT of free time as an evening student working only 20hrs/week. i personally work 50-60hrs/wk, but that is one job, and my focus is on that one place, not multiple. you should use this extra time not only to prepare for classes/exams, but also to do things you enjoy (socialize, exercise, enjoy nyc). i personally think the problem with most law students who do not experience a great deal of success is that they eat/sleep/breathe law school

let me know if you have any other questions about going to school while working

SO. MUCH. AWESOMENESS. (i.e., I totally concur, this is great advice. )

Thanks nygrrrl and jrock. That's pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking. It's just hard to turn down the brand and what it could do for my resume. But in the end, grades matter more and I think I should minimize the risk of lower grades. I like the idea of trying to make it a summer gig, though. I'm guessing 1E (that's the evening student terminology, yes?) students don't get legal-related gigs, right?

LS-boundNYC wrote:Thanks nygrrrl and jrock. That's pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking. It's just hard to turn down the brand and what it could do for my resume. But in the end, grades matter more and I think I should minimize the risk of lower grades. I like the idea of trying to make it a summer gig, though. I'm guessing 1E (that's the evening student terminology, yes?) students don't get legal-related gigs, right?

You aren't pressured to do so (the Career Planning Center understands that many of us are financing our LS careers on our day jobs and doesn't push us to give those gigs up), but I did manage to land a legal gig this summer. PM me for details.

Bleh, it sucks to be asking this but is anyone still looking for a roommate/apartment? I put a deposit down on a place a month ago but the owner decided he wanted to rent to his sister about 3 days ago, and completely reneged on his end of the deal. I need to get out of my current place in NYC because of the INSANE mouse problem (gross, I know).

Completely unrelated question for females: any tricks to get a commitophobe boyfriend to ask me to move in with him? Any advice welcome here

adevotchka wrote:Bleh, it sucks to be asking this but is anyone still looking for a roommate/apartment? I put a deposit down on a place a month ago but the owner decided he wanted to rent to his sister about 3 days ago, and completely reneged on his end of the deal. I need to get out of my current place in NYC because of the INSANE mouse problem (gross, I know).

Completely unrelated question for females: any tricks to get a commitophobe boyfriend to ask me to move in with him? Any advice welcome here

Don't move in with a boyfriend now, its like having a child 1L year. Ask on the Fordham fb group for roomate. Craigslist share isn't it as bad as you may think also.

ZOMG OUR SCHEDULES AND SECTIONS ARE UP ON MY.FORDHAM

NYC Law wrote:ZOMG OUR SCHEDULES AND SECTIONS ARE UP ON MY.FORDHAM

YAY! Listen, if anyone has trouble negotiating the site (or the weird banner thing) let me know - I'll do my best to talk you through it. Congrats, all!

NYC Law wrote:ZOMG OUR SCHEDULES AND SECTIONS ARE UP ON MY.FORDHAM

Not seeing it...what section/tab/link/folder (OMG there are a million options!!!) did you click?

Edit: never mind. Found it!!

LS-boundNYC wrote:

NYC Law wrote:ZOMG OUR SCHEDULES AND SECTIONS ARE UP ON MY.FORDHAM

Not seeing it...what section/tab/link/folder (OMG there are a million options!!!) did you click?

It's under Banner self service -> Student -> Registration -> Student Detail Schedule

OMG OMG OMG it's up. Finally!!

Pro-tip: check the prices for books on Amazon. Just make sure it's the same ISDN number.

Damn, I only found 2 of my professors on rate my professors and one of them has the symbol.

Gemini wrote:Damn, I only found 2 of my professors on rate my professors and one of them has the symbol.

PM me who you have.

nygrrrl wrote:

Gemini wrote:Damn, I only found 2 of my professors on rate my professors and one of them has the symbol.

PM me who you have.

Seconded, I may have advice/outlines or know others that do.

Gemini wrote:Damn, I only found 2 of my professors on rate my professors and one of them has the symbol.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who checked that site too! It was there when I googled their names and I just HAD to check it!

how do you know what section you're in?

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I can't find mine I hope it's because they didn't put up the evening students as of yet.....

Hi guys - congrats to all the incoming 1Ls at Fordham I am applying this cycle & am wondering if most of you are attending at sticker, because I hear Fordham is pretty stingy with money (not to bash the school at all, they just do not have a lot of it to give, from what I understand). I'm curious because with my numbers & desire to be in NYC, Fordham seems like a good match. Thanks!

katie96 wrote:Hi guys - congrats to all the incoming 1Ls at Fordham I am applying this cycle & am wondering if most of you are attending at sticker, because I hear Fordham is pretty stingy with money (not to bash the school at all, they just do not have a lot of it to give, from what I understand). I'm curious because with my numbers & desire to be in NYC, Fordham seems like a good match. Thanks!

I think a lot of people are paying sticker, or close to it. You have to decide for yourself whether that's worth it or not. If you asked about NYLS, the answer would obviously be HELL NO NOT WORTH IT, haha. But Fordham is much trickier. Some people think it's worth it, others don't.

Gemini wrote:

katie96 wrote:Hi guys - congrats to all the incoming 1Ls at Fordham I am applying this cycle & am wondering if most of you are attending at sticker, because I hear Fordham is pretty stingy with money (not to bash the school at all, they just do not have a lot of it to give, from what I understand). I'm curious because with my numbers & desire to be in NYC, Fordham seems like a good match. Thanks!

I think a lot of people are paying sticker, or close to it. You have to decide for yourself whether that's worth it or not. If you asked about NYLS, the answer would obviously be HELL NO NOT WORTH IT, haha. But Fordham is much trickier. Some people think it's worth it, others don't.

+1

Only about 40% of full time students get any aid at all, and the majority of that is $5-10k. So at least you can take comfort in knowing everyone else is in the same or similar boat. It's still a huge risk, but at least you'll have a very reputable school on your resume to help you down the road. But of course there's a little bit of selection bias in the responses since you're asking in the Fordham 2014 thread.

NYC Law wrote:

Gemini wrote:

katie96 wrote:Hi guys - congrats to all the incoming 1Ls at Fordham I am applying this cycle & am wondering if most of you are attending at sticker, because I hear Fordham is pretty stingy with money (not to bash the school at all, they just do not have a lot of it to give, from what I understand). I'm curious because with my numbers & desire to be in NYC, Fordham seems like a good match. Thanks!

I think a lot of people are paying sticker, or close to it. You have to decide for yourself whether that's worth it or not. If you asked about NYLS, the answer would obviously be HELL NO NOT WORTH IT, haha. But Fordham is much trickier. Some people think it's worth it, others don't.

+1

Only about 40% of full time students get any aid at all, and the majority of that is $5-10k. So at least you can take comfort in knowing everyone else is in the same or similar boat. It's still a huge risk, but at least you'll have a very reputable school on your resume to help you down the road. But of course there's a little bit of selection bias in the responses since you're asking in the Fordham 2014 thread.

True, but you guys are the ones enrolled so I'd rather the answers come from you than anyone else, regardless of bias. It is a bit comforting to know that most classmates would be taking on the same risk as me if I am granted admission to Fordham and decide to attend. I do agree that Fordham has a great rep and hope to be accepted this cycle!

blacklawboss wrote:I can't find mine I hope it's because they didn't put up the evening students as of yet.....

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer. But I'm evening and mine's posted. There's a little step by step above for how to find it. My first try didn't show anything but I went about it differently and did find it.