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What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Ended first semester with a 4.05 and 2 CALIs. Currently at a school in the T30 in the region I want to practice in on 2/3 scholarship.
Career goals in a perfect world are fed honors or biglaw/clerk --> fed
Have some fed Externships lined up for this summer and next year. I think my school has between a 25-30% biglaw/clerk placement percentage, not sure what their historical success with honors placement is.
Any thoughts on transferring v. staying put?
Thanks in advance, you all always seem to know what's up
Career goals in a perfect world are fed honors or biglaw/clerk --> fed
Have some fed Externships lined up for this summer and next year. I think my school has between a 25-30% biglaw/clerk placement percentage, not sure what their historical success with honors placement is.
Any thoughts on transferring v. staying put?
Thanks in advance, you all always seem to know what's up
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
if you're in the region you want to practice and want to clerk, i'm sure your school will do its damndest to get you a clerkship with a judge in your district.
you should be asking your school's OCS and upperclassmen for more narrowly tailored advice. all TLS can tell you is to apply to clerkships, do OCI, and apply to SLIP, which is general knowledge.
you should be asking your school's OCS and upperclassmen for more narrowly tailored advice. all TLS can tell you is to apply to clerkships, do OCI, and apply to SLIP, which is general knowledge.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Gotcha, thanks for the advicepancakes3 wrote:if you're in the region you want to practice and want to clerk, i'm sure your school will do its damndest to get you a clerkship with a judge in your district.
you should be asking your school's OCS and upperclassmen for more narrowly tailored advice. all TLS can tell you is to apply to clerkships, do OCI, and apply to SLIP, which is general knowledge.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Apply to transfer to a T-14 knowing you'll be admitted to at least one. Take the admission letter to your current school and negotiate an increased scholarship (full) to stay.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Do you know anyone that has done this successfully?harborleaguemvp wrote:Apply to transfer to a T-14 knowing you'll be admitted to at least one. Take the admission letter to your current school and negotiate an increased scholarship (full) to stay.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
I'm not sure, I've seen it posted as a thing to do on here a lot but don't really know how to figure out if my school does it besides asking upperclassmenNebby wrote:Do you know anyone that has done this successfully?harborleaguemvp wrote:Apply to transfer to a T-14 knowing you'll be admitted to at least one. Take the admission letter to your current school and negotiate an increased scholarship (full) to stay.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
It's incredibly uncommon and takes a lot of effort and could kill relationships, particularly in light of the reality that most schools don't negotiate to keep prospective transfers.summer1Lquestion wrote:I'm not sure, I've seen it posted as a thing to do on here a lot but don't really know how to figure out if my school does it besides asking upperclassmenNebby wrote:Do you know anyone that has done this successfully?harborleaguemvp wrote:Apply to transfer to a T-14 knowing you'll be admitted to at least one. Take the admission letter to your current school and negotiate an increased scholarship (full) to stay.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Ok well thats good to know, a lot of posters on here make it seem like its pretty normal. Thanks for the heads upNebby wrote:It's incredibly uncommon and takes a lot of effort and could kill relationships, particularly in light of the reality that most schools don't negotiate to keep prospective transfers.summer1Lquestion wrote:I'm not sure, I've seen it posted as a thing to do on here a lot but don't really know how to figure out if my school does it besides asking upperclassmenNebby wrote:Do you know anyone that has done this successfully?harborleaguemvp wrote:Apply to transfer to a T-14 knowing you'll be admitted to at least one. Take the admission letter to your current school and negotiate an increased scholarship (full) to stay.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Totally anecdotal but I had my T-50 offer money to try to keep me and I was only right around top 15%. Not saying OP's school will do the same necessarily, but it may be worth considering.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
you've got to look at it from the school's perspective.
The pros of having students/retaining students is to collect tuition. You leaving will take money out of their pocket. However, if they gave you full scholly, you're a net 0 for them, while taking up a seat at the school. The only remaining benefit of keeping you is that you're a smart kid, and when you get out in the workforce, the school will reap reputational gains. However, while a 4.05 is VERY impressive, the person that replaces you in rank when you leave will fill your shoes nicely, especially for the price.
This is why it's much easier to get scholarships before attending and from a transfer. Someone with stats above the 75th percentile actually has value to bring in boosting the rankings that the school is willing to eat the costs of attending (more accurately pass the costs along to the poor soul paying sticker).
these scholarships aren't really "merit" based at all. merit is merely a proxy for other factors that the school actually cares about.
edit on preview: yeah, it'd be worth the school's time to offer *some* money but that incentive goes away quickly when it's a full ride v. a half ride. bc again - it's not the school giving you money, it's the school still taking money from you, just a little less.
The pros of having students/retaining students is to collect tuition. You leaving will take money out of their pocket. However, if they gave you full scholly, you're a net 0 for them, while taking up a seat at the school. The only remaining benefit of keeping you is that you're a smart kid, and when you get out in the workforce, the school will reap reputational gains. However, while a 4.05 is VERY impressive, the person that replaces you in rank when you leave will fill your shoes nicely, especially for the price.
This is why it's much easier to get scholarships before attending and from a transfer. Someone with stats above the 75th percentile actually has value to bring in boosting the rankings that the school is willing to eat the costs of attending (more accurately pass the costs along to the poor soul paying sticker).
these scholarships aren't really "merit" based at all. merit is merely a proxy for other factors that the school actually cares about.
edit on preview: yeah, it'd be worth the school's time to offer *some* money but that incentive goes away quickly when it's a full ride v. a half ride. bc again - it's not the school giving you money, it's the school still taking money from you, just a little less.
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Re: What would you do if you were me, 4.05 @ T30
Yeah that makes sense. Honestly hate all the negotiating stuff, already negotiated up before coming and it's always awkward asking for money. School doesn't rank FWIW but sounds like the best option is to just chill. Thanks for the help.pancakes3 wrote:you've got to look at it from the school's perspective.
The pros of having students/retaining students is to collect tuition. You leaving will take money out of their pocket. However, if they gave you full scholly, you're a net 0 for them, while taking up a seat at the school. The only remaining benefit of keeping you is that you're a smart kid, and when you get out in the workforce, the school will reap reputational gains. However, while a 4.05 is VERY impressive, the person that replaces you in rank when you leave will fill your shoes nicely, especially for the price.
This is why it's much easier to get scholarships before attending and from a transfer. Someone with stats above the 75th percentile actually has value to bring in boosting the rankings that the school is willing to eat the costs of attending (more accurately pass the costs along to the poor soul paying sticker).
these scholarships aren't really "merit" based at all. merit is merely a proxy for other factors that the school actually cares about.
edit on preview: yeah, it'd be worth the school's time to offer *some* money but that incentive goes away quickly when it's a full ride v. a half ride. bc again - it's not the school giving you money, it's the school still taking money from you, just a little less.
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