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Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:13 pm
by prezidentv8
5782 wrote:Anybody know when the fall class schedule comes out?
I promise no accuracy, but: http://www.law.duke.edu/curriculum/schedulefall2011

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:17 pm
by quakeroats
prezidentv8 wrote:
5782 wrote:Anybody know when the fall class schedule comes out?
I promise no accuracy, but: http://www.law.duke.edu/curriculum/schedulefall2011
12 hours is the listed minimum for credit hours per semester. How easy is it to take fewer than that--say 11--for Fall of your 2L?

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:19 pm
by los blancos
Typical load is somewhere between 13 and 15 I'm guessing?

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:46 pm
by quakeroats
los blancos wrote:Typical load is somewhere between 13 and 15 I'm guessing?
12-15 is the no-approval-necessary range, but since it's a lot easier to count to 11 than 12 with the allocation of credit hours to classes at Duke, I'm wondering how difficult it will be to take fewer than 12 hours this fall.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:04 pm
by wiseowl
It's a lot easier to take 11 in Spring semesters since Wintersession credits can count towards course loads. For fall, you're probably going to need a pretty good excuse not to take a full 12. I suppose you could take 11 and say you plan to supplement with independent studies and ad hocs that won't get approved til fall, but what happens if you don't follow through?

Most people on a journal can try to get independent study credit for the note process, so definitely do that if you get on a journal.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:28 pm
by eldiabloazul
what are ya'll thinking for courses? any suggestions from 2/3Ls?

Beskin seems to be loved by his sections...and BA w/ Gulati is intriguing.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:16 pm
by Reedie
What classes fill up? Should I just count a 40 person capped fed courts as impossible? I was thinking of doing 16 units, but have since decided that is probably not a sane choice.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:01 pm
by quakeroats
Reedie wrote:What classes fill up? Should I just count a 40 person capped fed courts as impossible? I was thinking of doing 16 units, but have since decided that is probably not a sane choice.
Fed Courts has a reputation for being one of, if not the most difficult class in law school, in part because it attracts a lot of highly motivated clerkship hopefuls. I'd save it at least until the spring so it doesn't interfere with the job search.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:57 pm
by los blancos
quakeroats wrote:
Reedie wrote:What classes fill up? Should I just count a 40 person capped fed courts as impossible? I was thinking of doing 16 units, but have since decided that is probably not a sane choice.
Fed Courts has a reputation for being one of, if not the most difficult class in law school, in part because it attracts a lot of highly motivated clerkship hopefuls. I'd save it at least until the spring so it doesn't interfere with the job search.

For that reason, I might not even touch it until 3L. I'm not sure how important it is for my career goals but I figure I might do it spring 2L IF I think I'm competitive for SLIP or something like that.

I'm probably going to do 13 lawl skool credits + an undergrad class.

Still waiting to see if they're going to add Appellate Practice, Prosecutorial Ethics, and any Criminal Procedure classes.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:52 pm
by beantowngunnahh
Can any upperclassmen who have taken Appellate Practice comment on the workload / difficulty of the course? It seems like it will be LARW all over again, except this time the oral argument will be graded... and in front of a real judge. I am interested in litigation and genuinely want to take this course, but I'm afraid it will swallow up a lot of my time while offering little benefit to my professional goals.

Thoughts?

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:45 pm
by beantowngunnahh
Anyone taken Principles of Commercial and Bankruptcy Law with Schwarcz or know anything about him or the class generally? His resume is frighteningly impressive and I hear he can be harsh with students.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:23 pm
by Bosque
beantowngunnahh wrote:Can any upperclassmen who have taken Appellate Practice comment on the workload / difficulty of the course? It seems like it will be LARW all over again, except this time the oral argument will be graded... and in front of a real judge. I am interested in litigation and genuinely want to take this course, but I'm afraid it will swallow up a lot of my time while offering little benefit to my professional goals.

Thoughts?
If you want to do the Dean's Cup, take Appellate Practice. If you don't, don't take Appellate Practice.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:02 am
by los blancos
I'm still kind of surprised there aren't any CrimPro classes offered...


So far:
Evidence
App Practice
Corporate Crime


Waitlists for two of those, but I think I have a decent shot. Not sure I want Appellate Practice - thinking about doing a clinic.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:15 pm
by Bosque
los blancos wrote:I'm still kind of surprised there aren't any CrimPro classes offered...


So far:
Evidence
App Practice
Corporate Crime


Waitlists for two of those, but I think I have a decent shot. Not sure I want Appellate Practice - thinking about doing a clinic.
You can only do a clinic if you have taken ethics. I think some of them will let you do it as a co-requisite, not sure, but I haven't heard of anyone doing one before Spring 2L year. And be aware that they are typically a lot of work.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:11 pm
by los blancos
Bosque wrote:You can only do a clinic if you have taken ethics. I think some of them will let you do it as a co-requisite, not sure, but I haven't heard of anyone doing one before Spring 2L year. And be aware that they are typically a lot of work.
Yeah, I think the one I'm considering allows doing the ethics course concurrently. I may just wait till spring, though.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:11 pm
by quakeroats
Just... one... more... exam...

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:52 pm
by los blancos
are secondary journals worth the trouble?

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:58 pm
by quakeroats
It's finally over. Congratulations everyone!!

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:54 pm
by los blancos
Really happy with my decision not to write the casenote

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:48 pm
by beantowngunnahh
So when are grades supposedly coming out?

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:09 pm
by quakeroats
beantowngunnahh wrote:So when are grades supposedly coming out?
They're due around the 15th of June. I expect we'll see them the next week.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:36 pm
by Bosque
beantowngunnahh wrote:So when are grades supposedly coming out?
Today, apparently.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:58 pm
by quakeroats
Bosque wrote:
beantowngunnahh wrote:So when are grades supposedly coming out?
Today, apparently.
?

"In addition, within a reasonable time of receipt of the grades from the instructor and after January 25 for the Fall semester and June 15 for the Spring semester, the Registrar will report such grades to the students on the electronic system utilized by the university (e.g. the SISS web-based system currently)."
http://www.law.duke.edu/about/community ... l#rule3-19

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:09 am
by wiseowl
I don't really know what that rule says or means, but ACES says I have grades.

Re: Duke Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:17 am
by quakeroats
wiseowl wrote:I don't really know what that rule says or means, but ACES says I have grades.
Huh. Do you have all your grades? I don't have any.