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Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:54 pm
by thexfactor
romothesavior wrote:
Rammstein wrote:Tuition is certainly steep. I can't be sure but I think my status as a transfer student has also limited my options- it seems most of the other transfers I know are struggling mightily. The truth is I know my opportunities are much better at WUSTL than what they were at my first institution, and I know I'm going to come out of here pretty competent in whatever I do.

Do you think reaching out some state trial courts for a summer clerkship would be worthwhile? I hear summer clerkships in my home state are pretty easy to get. Would that be a marketable addition to my resume for next year's job search?
Personally, I think the most important thing for you to do is try to find a job that can lead to full time, post-graduate employment. Taking an unpaid job that has no possibility of permanent placement seems like throwing in the towel, but that's just my opinion. If you don't have a full-time job as a 3L and you have great grades, then go for a post-grad clerkship and try to secure a full-time job after that. But I don't see working for a judge being helpful for most people as a 2L.

And yeah, I think in general it is hard to transfer here, unless you are a native of St. Louis coming back home. You sacrifice a lot (grades, possibly law review and scholarships, etc.) and are basically treated like a median student here. It is a tough situation. Is there a particular market you're targeting?
I agree with you. If you are from the metro STL area and did NOT go to SLU your first year, you will have tons of opportunities at washu. For the rest of us that arent from stl, well... not so good.....
Washu is good for the great plains. However it's not so good for the eastern half of the midwest (ie columbus, Detroit, Cinci)

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:59 pm
by Rammstein
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Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:03 pm
by romothesavior
Rammstein wrote:Specific market? Not anymore, as beggars can't be choosers. I've plastered New York and New Jersey and have had little success (mass mail, cold calling). I should probably make another trip to CSO and see what they recommend. I'm keeping an open mind about location and will go wherever opportunity is.
Stay strong and keep fighting. Sending your resume into the mass mail void isn't likely to accomplish anything, so try to add a personal touch. Sure, networking isn't a golden ticket and you can't network your way into a job that doesn't exist, but the personal touch sure helps. Having an alumni partner go to bat for you is infinitely better than just sending your stuff to the recruiter cold.

I'd also try to use your winter break to build relationships with people in your home market and rack up some interviews if you can.

Good luck, Rammstein. At least your Packers are a nice pick-me-up, right?

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:07 pm
by Rammstein
Truth be told I'm a Ravens fan, but Clay Matthews is the shit.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:08 pm
by thexfactor
Rammstein wrote:Truth be told I'm a Ravens fan, but Clay Matthews is the shit.

Some advice: network hard in your home area. Apply to everything you see in your home area. Iassume youa re from Wisconsin if you are a GB fan so hit your home markets hard. WUSTL has a decent reputation for the most part in the upper midwest. lol ravens fan....

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:02 pm
by Senor A. Boy
This is the worst salad-making discussion board ever. Does anybody know how to make a good Waldorf!?!?!

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:53 pm
by Rammstein
Anyone going to Tom's tonight? I will be there crushing college sodas.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:01 pm
by romothesavior
Rammstein wrote:Anyone going to Tom's tonight? I will be there crushing college sodas.
8 Ball Says: Outlook good.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:06 pm
by stratocophic
romothesavior wrote:
Rammstein wrote:Anyone going to Tom's tonight? I will be there crushing college sodas.
8 Ball Says: Outlook good.
lol at the idea of not going to bar review. can't wait to get back to going out 4 nights/week in january though

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:14 pm
by romothesavior
stratocophic wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Rammstein wrote:Anyone going to Tom's tonight? I will be there crushing college sodas.
8 Ball Says: Outlook good.
lol at the idea of not going to bar review. can't wait to get back to going out 4 nights/week in january though
January? I did this last week. Wed-Sat. May be on track to do the same this week.

2LOLOLOL.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:19 pm
by MrAnon
0Ls: WUSTL is my top choice, admitted students day was off the hook!

2Ls: I can't find a job.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:20 pm
by MrAnon
I think that is one of the biggest problems with Washu. Our recent rise has meant that a lot of WUSTLers are only in junior positions either being a junior partner or associate. I've noticed that people tend to like people that are similar to themselves. In a law firm, one of the easiest things people tend to connect with is the name of your law school. This sometimes hurts WUSTLers cuz we just don't have many WUSTLers in hiring positions.
This is misreading the situation. The rankings are just a marketing tool, pure and simple. they have zero to do with who makes partner. Exceptional people make partner, no matter the school.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:23 pm
by stratocophic
MrAnon wrote:0Ls: WUSTL is my top choice, admitted students day was off the hook!

2Ls: I can't find a job.
lol my summer plans say otherwise bucko
romothesavior wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Rammstein wrote:Anyone going to Tom's tonight? I will be there crushing college sodas.
8 Ball Says: Outlook good.
lol at the idea of not going to bar review. can't wait to get back to going out 4 nights/week in january though
January? I did this last week. Wed-Sat. May be on track to do the same this week.

2LOLOLOL.
attaboy. it's not like i'm doing work the other nights anyway, but i'll hit at least 3 nights this week

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:25 pm
by romothesavior
MrAnon wrote:0Ls: WUSTL is my top choice, admitted students day was off the hook!

2Ls: I can't find a job.
Dude, what the fuck. This is the WUSTL CLASS OF 2013 THREAD, not a thread for you to come in and peddle your same old bullshit schtick.

We all know how bad the market is. Most of the regular posters ITT (myself, jcougar, stratocophic, fl0w) did an insane amount of research before we made our decision. We don't need your lectures. If you want to give someone the same old played out message, go tell it to the 0Ls. We don't have any use for you here.

You are absolutely, positively the worst poster on TLS.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:14 pm
by Rammstein
MrAnon wrote:
I think that is one of the biggest problems with Washu. Our recent rise has meant that a lot of WUSTLers are only in junior positions either being a junior partner or associate. I've noticed that people tend to like people that are similar to themselves. In a law firm, one of the easiest things people tend to connect with is the name of your law school. This sometimes hurts WUSTLers cuz we just don't have many WUSTLers in hiring positions.
This is misreading the situation. The rankings are just a marketing tool, pure and simple. they have zero to do with who makes partner. Exceptional people make partner, no matter the school.

This guy do this often?

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:35 pm
by stratocophic
Rammstein wrote:
MrAnon wrote:
I think that is one of the biggest problems with Washu. Our recent rise has meant that a lot of WUSTLers are only in junior positions either being a junior partner or associate. I've noticed that people tend to like people that are similar to themselves. In a law firm, one of the easiest things people tend to connect with is the name of your law school. This sometimes hurts WUSTLers cuz we just don't have many WUSTLers in hiring positions.
This is misreading the situation. The rankings are just a marketing tool, pure and simple. they have zero to do with who makes partner. Exceptional people make partner, no matter the school.

This guy do this often?
Nonstop, and EVERYWHERE

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:59 pm
by vanwinkle
MrAnon wrote:0Ls: WUSTL is my top choice, admitted students day was off the hook!

2Ls: I can't find a job.
Image

If he returns, PM me.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:44 pm
by romothesavior
stratocophic wrote:
Rammstein wrote:This guy do this often?
Nonstop, and EVERYWHERE
He's just unreal. He does nothing but butt into people's threads and change the topic to whatever he sees fit.

I'm all for healthy pessimism and trying to talk people off the law school ledge (I think Mr. Anon is "right," in a perverse sense of the word), but he is just intentionally annoying about it.

If there was a poll of the worst posters on TLS, he would easily finish in the top 5.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:52 pm
by stratocophic
romothesavior wrote:
stratocophic wrote:
Rammstein wrote:This guy do this often?
Nonstop, and EVERYWHERE
He's just unreal. He does nothing but butt into people's threads and change the topic to whatever he sees fit.

I'm all for healthy pessimism and trying to talk people off the law school ledge (I think Mr. Anon is "right," in a perverse sense of the word), but he is just intentionally annoying about it.

If there was a poll of the worst posters on TLS, he would easily finish in the top 5.
3-hit CR combo

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:36 pm
by Rammstein
I don't know how I spent $100 at Tom's.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:12 pm
by johnnyutah
romothesavior wrote: If there was a poll of the worst posters on TLS
If we're talking current posters,

(1) bmore md
(2) bodhi mind
(3) MrAnon
(4) MTal
(5) Gotti

/thread.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:44 am
by romothesavior
johnnyutah wrote:
romothesavior wrote: If there was a poll of the worst posters on TLS
If we're talking current posters,

(1) bmore md
(2) bodhi mind
(3) MrAnon
(4) MTal
(5) Gotti

/thread.
Grizz and I were discussing this the other day and both agreed on mtal and MrAnon. Forgot about bmore, he is awful in the lounge and sports threads. Grizz and I both also agreed that Pdaddy and Germx suck. And that guy with the larry david tar was bad (don't any of you have money???), but entertaining at least. Same could be said for sehmeserious... he is bad but in an entertaining way. C3P04 is my vote for up and coming terribad poster

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:11 pm
by robin600
Anyone take Evidence with Rosen yet? How much of a suckfest are his MC questions? Better or worse than Norwood's just shoot me now MCs? I have him next semester.

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:33 am
by TatteredDignity
Anyone in here have a copy of Chemerinsky you'd be willing to sell for a reasonable price?

Re: WUSTL Class of 2013

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:07 pm
by fl0w
robin600 wrote:Anyone take Evidence with Rosen yet? How much of a suckfest are his MC questions? Better or worse than Norwood's just shoot me now MCs? I have him next semester.
they are a suckfest for sure. but i didn't have norwood. his class can be fun, but it won't really prepare you for his final.