Re: Case Western Class of 2013
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:06 pm
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No, I think it's safe to say they're rather disoriented. That said, all they needed to do was: 1) send an email indicating how to set up your case email, 2) send one giant email, only to case emails, with a link to the online stuff and a note explaining what was going to be mailed physically and what wasn't, and suggested dates for return of each item, if applicable. Zero confusion.angioletto wrote:This is starting to get confusing. I thought I was doing a pretty good job of keeping track of what they had and hadn't sent me, but with the e-mails to my personal e-mail address, my case e-mail address and stuff coming through regular mail it is getting all jumbled up.
Everything that they have sent me and told me to sign or fill out I did right away so that I wouldn't forget.
I filled out and sent in the Loan Remittance Form (blue sheet that came in the mail with a bunch of other stuff). I accepted my financial aid award online and THEN got an e-mail saying that we shouldn't do that until AFTER orientation. Oops.
Today's e-mail (sent to my case account) says to bring the Registration Data Form to orientation. It says this form has recently been e-mailed to us. But I don't have it. Does anyone else? Which e-mail was it in?
I am so excited to be going to Case this fall but I really wish this paperwork and all of this info could have been distributed in a more efficient, less confusing manner. Maybe it is a warm-up to get our brains ready for law school.
So do you have any idea what this "Registration Data Form" is?creamedcats wrote:No, I think it's safe to say they're rather disoriented. That said, all they needed to do was: 1) send an email indicating how to set up your case email, 2) send one giant email, only to case emails, with a link to the online stuff and a note explaining what was going to be mailed physically and what wasn't, and suggested dates for return of each item, if applicable. Zero confusion.angioletto wrote:This is starting to get confusing. I thought I was doing a pretty good job of keeping track of what they had and hadn't sent me, but with the e-mails to my personal e-mail address, my case e-mail address and stuff coming through regular mail it is getting all jumbled up.
Everything that they have sent me and told me to sign or fill out I did right away so that I wouldn't forget.
I filled out and sent in the Loan Remittance Form (blue sheet that came in the mail with a bunch of other stuff). I accepted my financial aid award online and THEN got an e-mail saying that we shouldn't do that until AFTER orientation. Oops.
Today's e-mail (sent to my case account) says to bring the Registration Data Form to orientation. It says this form has recently been e-mailed to us. But I don't have it. Does anyone else? Which e-mail was it in?
I am so excited to be going to Case this fall but I really wish this paperwork and all of this info could have been distributed in a more efficient, less confusing manner. Maybe it is a warm-up to get our brains ready for law school.
I just received it in my personal e-mail a few minutes ago.GetYaPopcornReady wrote:I haven't received the "registration data form" either. Hopefully it will come within the next few days.
Well then this makes me feel really good about myself.thexfactor wrote:Last year, my roommate was trying to tell me how he had a hunch that section B had the best students. Again, this is just all pure speculation.
1. Since Case wants to raise their bar pass rate. They give the worst students the best teachers and vice versa.
a. evidence- foreign students are never introduced into section b classes. Only in sections A and C.
2. more kids are on big scholarships in section b than any other section.
3. The best LLM students who transition to JD are put into section B.
4. For the elective class 2nd semester, the cali award winner for all the elective classes were from section b.
angioletto wrote:This is the first year scholarships have had GPA stips so they would have had no reason to stack last year.
We (me and another group of students at an ASD) were told that this was the first year with the 3.15 GPA stip and that before this year the only requirement was "good academic standing." So you had stipulations beyond "good academic standing?"thexfactor wrote:Not true. I had a stipulation on my scholarship.
remember 2 tips.
1. study early
2. pay attention in class
For Core:
Mercer loves to have things her way. So always check with her.
She will be swamped a couple days before papers are due so start early.
angioletto wrote:This is the first year scholarships have had GPA stips so they would have had no reason to stack last year.
snowpeach06 wrote:Well then this makes me feel really good about myself.thexfactor wrote:Last year, my roommate was trying to tell me how he had a hunch that section B had the best students. Again, this is just all pure speculation.
1. Since Case wants to raise their bar pass rate. They give the worst students the best teachers and vice versa.
a. evidence- foreign students are never introduced into section b classes. Only in sections A and C.
2. more kids are on big scholarships in section b than any other section.
3. The best LLM students who transition to JD are put into section B.
4. For the elective class 2nd semester, the cali award winner for all the elective classes were from section b.
I'd believe it though. They claim they don't try to stack scholarship students, but, they probably do. It also sucks if we get the worst teachers (I'm going to choose not to believe this part), and really sucks that we have to wake up so damn early.
angioletto wrote:We (me and another group of students at an ASD) were told that this was the first year with the 3.15 GPA stip and that before this year the only requirement was "good academic standing." So you had stipulations beyond "good academic standing?"thexfactor wrote:Not true. I had a stipulation on my scholarship.
remember 2 tips.
1. study early
2. pay attention in class
For Core:
Mercer loves to have things her way. So always check with her.
She will be swamped a couple days before papers are due so start early.
angioletto wrote:This is the first year scholarships have had GPA stips so they would have had no reason to stack last year.
angioletto wrote:Thank you for all the great info. It is nice to get the "inside scoop" on the profs ahead of time!
creamedcats wrote:I would be interested in any evidence of section stacking, but I don't see it as being likely.
Good post on the professors and thanks for the percentile breakdowns.
thexfactor wrote:Austin is an old fella who has already "checked out" in my opinion. He doesnt like answering questions.
For Torts: Strassfeld covered half of the material that we were suppose to cover. Sucks for us on the bar exam....... He tried to cram 1/4 of a semesters worth of materials in 2 class periods.....
Funny guy though.. and semi entertaining.
Crim law: No complains on my part. Very organized and structured. Some people complained that he is a hard-ass. Also, his "version" of criminal law is kinda a little bit off from the mainstream philosophy so you might have to relearn stuff for the bar exam.
All in all... it was a semi-enjoyable semester. Friends are prob the most important part. My favorite part was goofing around with a couple of friends on the bridge between contracts and torts.
Get friends that you can depend on. Get a group of 6-8 friends you hang out with socially and 2-3 friends that you can study with.
Attending AEP is always a good idea. Remember.. don't panic if you do poorly on your first memo. I did average/below average on my first memo and still did well in the class. Just make sure you understand where you went wrong.
Check Case's bar pass rate. They have a pretty low rate in OH. A low bar pass rate reflects poorly on the 1L professors.
This year we had about 15 law firms participate in Early OCI and about 5-10 firms in the later rounds. THe majority of these firms are pretty big firms. The good news is that Cleveland actually has a decent amount of big/medium law firms. like 6-7 in the top 250 firms in the US. Then there are some decent medium firms too. So recruiting at Case isn't that bad. Generally speaking, you need to be about top 25%-30% ITE.
I was between 8-15% and got almost all the interviews that I applied to. I had a buddy who is also top 5% and had the same. Case is a really transfer happy school ( i transferred).. I think about 7-8 people on LR transferred. About 20-25 transferred overall.
Top 10% of case grades on to LR minus transfers. So roughly the top 15%-20% of the class makes it into LR.
Guys you are at a great "hidden" gem. Recruiting is bad at all schools. Obviously almost all of you guys would be going to fordham/bc/wustl/gw if you had gotten in. However, outside of that group, I think Case actually has a pretty good recruiting program for it's rank. Im glad I chose Case over Wake.
Again, these "tips" have to do with what I experienced. Your experience will vary.
PM me if you need any more information. I will do whatever I can to help.
snowpeach06 wrote:Well then this makes me feel really good about myself.thexfactor wrote:Last year, my roommate was trying to tell me how he had a hunch that section B had the best students. Again, this is just all pure speculation.
1. Since Case wants to raise their bar pass rate. They give the worst students the best teachers and vice versa.
a. evidence- foreign students are never introduced into section b classes. Only in sections A and C.
2. more kids are on big scholarships in section b than any other section.
3. The best LLM students who transition to JD are put into section B.
4. For the elective class 2nd semester, the cali award winner for all the elective classes were from section b.
I'd believe it though. They claim they don't try to stack scholarship students, but, they probably do. It also sucks if we get the worst teachers (I'm going to choose not to believe this part), and really sucks that we have to wake up so damn early.
Soelrdg wrote:Thanks for your very detailed posting. It was of great help in getting a sense of who the professors of my section really are.
I just have two questions.
If the professors are, as you remarked, "checked out", "off from the mainstream" and unable to cover the materials on schedule, does that make preparing for the final exam any more difficult? How did you prepare for the finals yourself? Did you rely on materials besides casebooks and supplements recommened by the professors?
And second, when I saw the Criminal Law syllabus the grading system seemed a bit unsual to me in that 20% of it came from in-class participation and quizess, instead of 100% from the final exam as usual. Have these quizzes and participation requirements imposed any additional burden on preparing for your class?(when one has more than enough worry about the final exam?)
Again, thanks for your insightful posting and I really appreciate for kindly giving such valuable piece of information to new students.
thexfactor wrote:Austin is an old fella who has already "checked out" in my opinion. He doesnt like answering questions.
For Torts: Strassfeld covered half of the material that we were suppose to cover. Sucks for us on the bar exam....... He tried to cram 1/4 of a semesters worth of materials in 2 class periods.....
Funny guy though.. and semi entertaining.
Crim law: No complains on my part. Very organized and structured. Some people complained that he is a hard-ass. Also, his "version" of criminal law is kinda a little bit off from the mainstream philosophy so you might have to relearn stuff for the bar exam.
All in all... it was a semi-enjoyable semester. Friends are prob the most important part. My favorite part was goofing around with a couple of friends on the bridge between contracts and torts.
Get friends that you can depend on. Get a group of 6-8 friends you hang out with socially and 2-3 friends that you can study with.
Attending AEP is always a good idea. Remember.. don't panic if you do poorly on your first memo. I did average/below average on my first memo and still did well in the class. Just make sure you understand where you went wrong.
Check Case's bar pass rate. They have a pretty low rate in OH. A low bar pass rate reflects poorly on the 1L professors.
This year we had about 15 law firms participate in Early OCI and about 5-10 firms in the later rounds. THe majority of these firms are pretty big firms. The good news is that Cleveland actually has a decent amount of big/medium law firms. like 6-7 in the top 250 firms in the US. Then there are some decent medium firms too. So recruiting at Case isn't that bad. Generally speaking, you need to be about top 25%-30% ITE.
I was between 8-15% and got almost all the interviews that I applied to. I had a buddy who is also top 5% and had the same. Case is a really transfer happy school ( i transferred).. I think about 7-8 people on LR transferred. About 20-25 transferred overall.
Top 10% of case grades on to LR minus transfers. So roughly the top 15%-20% of the class makes it into LR.
Guys you are at a great "hidden" gem. Recruiting is bad at all schools. Obviously almost all of you guys would be going to fordham/bc/wustl/gw if you had gotten in. However, outside of that group, I think Case actually has a pretty good recruiting program for it's rank. Im glad I chose Case over Wake.
Again, these "tips" have to do with what I experienced. Your experience will vary.
PM me if you need any more information. I will do whatever I can to help.
snowpeach06 wrote:Well then this makes me feel really good about myself.thexfactor wrote:Last year, my roommate was trying to tell me how he had a hunch that section B had the best students. Again, this is just all pure speculation.
1. Since Case wants to raise their bar pass rate. They give the worst students the best teachers and vice versa.
a. evidence- foreign students are never introduced into section b classes. Only in sections A and C.
2. more kids are on big scholarships in section b than any other section.
3. The best LLM students who transition to JD are put into section B.
4. For the elective class 2nd semester, the cali award winner for all the elective classes were from section b.
I'd believe it though. They claim they don't try to stack scholarship students, but, they probably do. It also sucks if we get the worst teachers (I'm going to choose not to believe this part), and really sucks that we have to wake up so damn early.