Any recommendations or online links would be much appreciated

heyarnold wrote:What's the protocol for Briefcases / Messenger Bags? Do they need to be either black or olive to match ABU's? Is there an everyday messenger bag that y'all often see, but something different (like a fancy portfolio accordion folder) that you see in the courtroom ?
Any recommendations or online links would be much appreciated
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back regarding timeline or orders for the January JAG class?
LLC1 wrote:looking for advice/options re jag -
i signed a contract and accepted a commission but the situation is a bit muddy as far as licensing so i have questions ... i've taken the bar, didn't quite pass, trying to transfer, unclear how long of a process that'll be and if it'll ultimately be successful :/
1. what happens if i do not get my license on time (i.e. within a year of commissioning)? initiated the transfer process, would remain pending through february bar exams but apparently transfers can take quite a while. would i be discharged? & what kind of discharge is that? or are there extensions?
2. given the contract & oath, do i have any honorable ways of being let out of it? definitely not a CO nor would i try to make the claim but just curious as to whether that's an option at all because i have been operating under the presumption it is not
3. bar prep and the ensuing mess re licensing were beyond terrible for my mental health. i'm seeing a therapist now/again. i disclosed in my files using counseling years before but for transitions and whatnot; this time i'm working on what might be moderate depression. am i supposed to disclose seeing a therapist or is this still protected health information? and would any of this have any effect on my contract/commission?
Anonymous User wrote:LLC1 wrote:looking for advice/options re jag -
i signed a contract and accepted a commission but the situation is a bit muddy as far as licensing so i have questions ... i've taken the bar, didn't quite pass, trying to transfer, unclear how long of a process that'll be and if it'll ultimately be successful :/
1. what happens if i do not get my license on time (i.e. within a year of commissioning)? initiated the transfer process, would remain pending through february bar exams but apparently transfers can take quite a while. would i be discharged? & what kind of discharge is that? or are there extensions?
2. given the contract & oath, do i have any honorable ways of being let out of it? definitely not a CO nor would i try to make the claim but just curious as to whether that's an option at all because i have been operating under the presumption it is not
3. bar prep and the ensuing mess re licensing were beyond terrible for my mental health. i'm seeing a therapist now/again. i disclosed in my files using counseling years before but for transitions and whatnot; this time i'm working on what might be moderate depression. am i supposed to disclose seeing a therapist or is this still protected health information? and would any of this have any effect on my contract/commission?
Can you explain what type of contract you signed?
Most services do not allow you to commission until you are fully qualified I.e. medically and bar good standing.
Unless you did something like ROTC?
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have any insight (housing, worklife, etc.) on Barksdale AFB or Shreveport/Bossier City, LA?
csjdoc wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back regarding timeline or orders for the January JAG class?
I'm going to assume that you're referring to Army JAG. If you're seated for the January class, you'll received confirmation around the middle of November. You'll receive your orders around the week of Christmas and the January class will begin on January 21, 2019.
Anonymous User wrote:csjdoc wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back regarding timeline or orders for the January JAG class?
I'm going to assume that you're referring to Army JAG. If you're seated for the January class, you'll received confirmation around the middle of November. You'll receive your orders around the week of Christmas and the January class will begin on January 21, 2019.
Hi, do you know how many seats there are for the January class? Also do you know if we receive an eqip security clearance form in when we get notification of whether we are in the Jan class or not?
csjdoc wrote:Anonymous User wrote:csjdoc wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back regarding timeline or orders for the January JAG class?
I'm going to assume that you're referring to Army JAG. If you're seated for the January class, you'll received confirmation around the middle of November. You'll receive your orders around the week of Christmas and the January class will begin on January 21, 2019.
Hi, do you know how many seats there are for the January class? Also do you know if we receive an eqip security clearance form in when we get notification of whether we are in the Jan class or not?
I don't know the exact number of seats for the January class. However, my understanding is that the January class is usually larger than the October class.
The security clearance process begins once you are assigned to a class. You will be contacted with instructions regarding the background check for the security clearance when you are assigned to a class.
Patrick Bateman wrote:howell wrote:Has anyone attended the Jobs for JAGs event put on by the Judge Advocates Association? Or know anyone who has? If so, was it helpful or a waste of time?
Overall, it is worth your time as long as your expectations are realistic.
I have no idea what is in store for this year but in the past, there were a handful of Skadden type BigLaw firms recruiting for their white collar defense shops, along with some DOJ and other BigFed manning informational tables.
The panels will vary. The biggest challenge for an event like this is the audience - you have O-3s separating after their 4 year commitment through very senior O-6s retiring after 25+ years. Those are demographics with basically zero overlap, so not everything presented may be something you are interested in. For example, they had panels on how to become an ALJ or how to land an SES position - it is good information for anyone, but really is directed to the retiring O-5/O-6 world.
They also had "floating" panelists that were basically just reserve/separated JAGs that were already employed in BigLaw/BigFed/BigDefenseContractor that were talking to people over lunch, on breaks, etc with any questions individual folks might have had.
While I absolutely hate the term "networking," it is also valuable in that context - I ran into peers and superiors from years back that I didn't know were getting out. You never know who knows who, where they are going, etc. The greater JAG Corps fraternity out there is huge and there can be some very valuable connections and introductions to be made. Making the leap from AD is a scary thing and I found there is a real sense of solidarity.
Anonymous User wrote:Want to hear from current or former JAs about mental and emotional resiliency during your service. How often did you deal with things that were really troubling to you? Any insights that helped you maintain good mental/emotional fitness while dealing with “heavier” cases or assignments?
Anonymous User wrote:Want to hear from current or former JAs about mental and emotional resiliency during your service. How often did you deal with things that were really troubling to you? Any insights that helped you maintain good mental/emotional fitness while dealing with “heavier” cases or assignments?
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone else in USAR January JAG not get their SF86 E-Qip email?
pipedream wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anyone else in USAR January JAG not get their SF86 E-Qip email?
Just a tip in case no one's mentioned it: if you complete your SF-86 online (via E-Qip, as is standard these days), make damn sure you print/save a completed copy for yourself. Once it's submitted, you won't have access to it again until your clearance is up for review or upgrade (which could be as far as ten years down the line, depending on your clearance level), and Unit Security Managers don't have access to it due to the investigations being contracted. There'll likely be more than a few instances in that timeframe in which having the information would be useful
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know when the Air Force OYCP application opens?
Also, I have made it through most of the thread, and I have talked with couple current Judge Advocates, but my current impression is that the Air Force would provide a larger variety of practice areas and possibly include opportunities to practice outside of the typical litigation/legal services. I am looking only at the Marines in the alternative, and it seems between their less frequent position rotation and what they typically do, one would only get exposed to litigation and legal services on a first tour? I would appreciate if anyone could let me know if this is an accurate assessment.
howell wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know when the Air Force OYCP application opens?
Also, I have made it through most of the thread, and I have talked with couple current Judge Advocates, but my current impression is that the Air Force would provide a larger variety of practice areas and possibly include opportunities to practice outside of the typical litigation/legal services. I am looking only at the Marines in the alternative, and it seems between their less frequent position rotation and what they typically do, one would only get exposed to litigation and legal services on a first tour? I would appreciate if anyone could let me know if this is an accurate assessment.
I just saw on Facebook that the OYCP application is open as of today.
I don't have much to offer on your other question. I share your expectations of Marine JAG life, but I don't have recent first-hand experiences to relay. The AF and the Marines are on the far ends of the JAG spectrum, so it's a little unusual to just look at those two branches. But you will definitely get broad experience from the AF.
TortsIllustratedd wrote:Long time lurker, but first time poster. Thanks to everyone who has posted before for helping me decipher this whole process.
Question for any of the AF/ Navy JA selects that have been through the process. Any advice on how to spruce up your application for the 2nd or 3rd time applying? I get that they want to see people who keep at it, but starting to get a little discouraged with the rejections. Interviews went well and previously clerked in an AF SJA office, so curious as to how I can spice things up. Also, any idea when the results of the 11/1 board might be out? Thanks y'all.
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