UChicago Law OCI 2019 Forum

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone heard from any of Fenwick & West's offices?

Or Orrick?

Or Dechert?

Or Foley & Lardner Chicago?

Fenwick SV callback last week Friday.

Fenwick NY?

[Anonymous User]

Jenner Chicago callback

[Anonymous User]

Ding from Skadden Chicago

[Anonymous User]

Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though!

[Anonymous User]

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[beeoBoop]

Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though!

There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers.

[Anonymous User]

You can find strong evidence elsewhere on this forum for the reluctance of certain firms to call people back with very high grades - the best hard evidence is for the New York market. GPA 75ths alone can also tell you that, since some firms don’t call back top students even though lots interview with them. Most clearly, many lower-tier, even below-market, DC firms attract many top students bidding exclusively the DC market for screeners but you can’t tell that from their 75ths. Callbacks are expensive both in time and in opportunity cost and at least at Chicago deriving yield is trivial (hence the reference to Cravath’s pathetic yield last year above).

[Anonymous User]

Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though!

There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers.

But presumably they want to fill their class ASAP and therefore don’t want to extend offers that won’t be accepted?

[Anonymous User]

Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though!

There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers.

But presumably they want to fill their class ASAP and therefore don’t want to extend offers that won’t be accepted?

Plus cost of a callback (mostly attorney time but still).

[Anonymous User]

You can find strong evidence elsewhere on this forum for the reluctance of certain firms to call people back with very high grades - the best hard evidence is for the New York market. GPA 75ths alone can also tell you that, since some firms don’t call back top students even though lots interview with them. Most clearly, many lower-tier, even below-market, DC firms attract many top students bidding exclusively the DC market for screeners but you can’t tell that from their 75ths. Callbacks are expensive both in time and in opportunity cost and at least at Chicago deriving yield is trivial (hence the reference to Cravath’s pathetic yield last year above).

DC is one of the most difficult, if not the hardest, market to enter. There is an incredible number of people from our class, in comparison to past years, applying to DC too. Some people won’t get jobs. Chicago is also more difficult than NYC.

Maybe instead of thinking your grades are getting you yielded at firms you should reconsider if coming across as having a pompous personality or not having as strong of interview skills as you think you have are the reasons you’re not getting callbacks.

[Anonymous User]

Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though!

There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers.

There's a huge amount of yield protection. I think even bigger than the costs is the fact that if they extend an offer (that a top-student will almost surely not take), they have to keep the offer open for several weeks while they could be nabbing other applicants.

[Anonymous User]

Chill out I have plenty of callbacks and offers and this is hardly a novel observation. Like I said I think yield protecting is a fully justified practice for firms.

[Anonymous User]

Chill out I have plenty of callbacks and offers and this is hardly a novel observation. Like I said I think yield protecting is a fully justified practice for firms.

LOL everybody else should calm down because I'm doing great. Yeah, I mean I'm one of the above anon complainers, and I'm doing fine to, but what a stupid thing to say to others who are struggling.

[Anonymous User]

Also who said I’m bidding for DC and I’m not bidding for NYC? Maybe get out of ready-fire-aim mode.

[Anonymous User]

Lol this whole thread is so Chicago. You guys all need to chill out.

[Anonymous User]

You can find strong evidence elsewhere on this forum for the reluctance of certain firms to call people back with very high grades - the best hard evidence is for the New York market. GPA 75ths alone can also tell you that, since some firms don’t call back top students even though lots interview with them. Most clearly, many lower-tier, even below-market, DC firms attract many top students bidding exclusively the DC market for screeners but you can’t tell that from their 75ths. Callbacks are expensive both in time and in opportunity cost and at least at Chicago deriving yield is trivial (hence the reference to Cravath’s pathetic yield last year above).

DC is one of the most difficult, if not the hardest, market to enter. There is an incredible number of people from our class, in comparison to past years, applying to DC too. Some people won’t get jobs. Chicago is also more difficult than NYC.

Maybe instead of thinking your grades are getting you yielded at firms you should reconsider if coming across as having a pompous personality or not having as strong of interview skills as you think you have are the reasons you’re not getting callbacks.

Or maybe you should recognize that yield protection happens and not be a jerk.

[Anonymous User]

Chill out I have plenty of callbacks and offers and this is hardly a novel observation. Like I said I think yield protecting is a fully justified practice for firms.

LOL everybody else should calm down because I'm doing great. Yeah, I mean I'm one of the above anon complainers, and I'm doing fine to, but what a stupid thing to say to others who are struggling.

He's just responding to the above poster who was ballsy enough to call him pompous because he said yield protection happens. He wasn't addressing everybody in the thread.

[Anonymous User]

Yield protection does happen at some firms, not sure why that's controversial

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten a callback from any office of Quinn Emanuel?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten a callback from any office of Quinn Emanuel?

Quinn DC last Sunday

[Anonymous User]

Mayer Brown Chicago offers going out

Also, YP is a huge part of this whole process. Firms don't give callbacks/offers to candidates they suspect will end up elsewhere. Hilarious that someone is confidently denying that on this thread

[Anonymous User]

Mayer Brown Chicago offers going out

Also, YP is a huge part of this whole process. Firms don't give callbacks/offers to candidates they suspect will end up elsewhere. Hilarious that someone is confidently denying that on this thread

When did you interview at MB?

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

Mayer Brown Chicago offers going out

Also, YP is a huge part of this whole process. Firms don't give callbacks/offers to candidates they suspect will end up elsewhere. Hilarious that someone is confidently denying that on this thread

When did you interview at MB?

Earlier this week

[beeoBoop]

Ding - Mayer Brown. Some Chicago firms are definitely yield protecting, but tbh they're right in my case, I wouldn't have worked there. If I had done really poorly with the very selective firms for some reason this would be quite a scary OCI though!

There's no such thing as yield protecting in OCI. firms don't have to report yield for SA offers.

There's a huge amount of yield protection. I think even bigger than the costs is the fact that if they extend an offer (that a top-student will almost surely not take), they have to keep the offer open for several weeks while they could be nabbing other applicants.

As a biglaw associate who interviews students every week in the summer, including your classmates, no. There is no such thing as yield protect. The size of a summer class is variable so if we have more or less than the total number expected then whatever. Classes are large and that's part of the process. I think youre dramatically overestimating the value of an SA (and by extension a first year)

If you didn't get an offer from a firm that you think is beneath you, it's because they didn't like you. Not because they thought your grades were so good you'd never accept. This isn't law school and "yield" isn't a thing