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I just assumed everyone had July 5th off since it was on our 2019 firm holiday calendar that was sent around in late 2018.
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LOL. That whole argument that "market" means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently.ghostoftraynor wrote:You guys are forgetting market is based on $/hour now. With one less day of work, V&E is new market leader.
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That’s kind of K&E style for ya. Associate who is pretty smart but thinks he/she is a super genius and has figured out something no one else has. Then doubles down when his/her bad argument is called out.BlackAndOrange84 wrote:LOL. That whole argument that "market" means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently.ghostoftraynor wrote:You guys are forgetting market is based on $/hour now. With one less day of work, V&E is new market leader.
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Ah, watch as the disgruntled associates begin to turn on each other. At this point, only the strongest and most cunning will survive to enjoy the July 5th holiday.
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Someone once told me that it was heavily rumored that top brass at each of the NYC elite firms meets up semi-regularly. Have others heard this too or was I bamboozled? Honestly would make sense with how comp progresses but also like a pretty obv BIG COLLUSION case too
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@ BlackAndOrange84
"LOL. That whole argument that 'market' means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently."
Just because everyone in the profession uses it one way, does not make it so. Said one man to another back in the day, "Bro, everyone knows the world is flat. Come on."
"LOL. That whole argument that 'market' means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently."
Just because everyone in the profession uses it one way, does not make it so. Said one man to another back in the day, "Bro, everyone knows the world is flat. Come on."
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yo we flat earthers now
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I wouldn't be surprised at all. It's the only thing that I can think of that would basically allow a single firm to set compensation (with 0 variation) for an entire industry for 100+ years.mt2165 wrote:Someone once told me that it was heavily rumored that top brass at each of the NYC elite firms meets up semi-regularly. Have others heard this too or was I bamboozled? Honestly would make sense with how comp progresses but also like a pretty obv BIG COLLUSION case too
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Impressed that you have unmediated platonic knowledge of the meaning of words.Anonymous User wrote:@ BlackAndOrange84
"LOL. That whole argument that 'market' means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently."
Just because everyone in the profession uses it one way, does not make it so. Said one man to another back in the day, "Bro, everyone knows the world is flat. Come on."
A little more in seriousness, you haven't even made a convincing prescriptivist argument about the meaning of "market." I'm all for a little prescriptivism where it's warranted, but you're not right on either a prescriptivist or descriptivist view. Now maybe what you mean is that the fora and lawyers more generally don't measure market comp in the right or best way (and you're not entirely wrong there, there's something to be said for measuring comp by hours worked rather than by bottom line annual comp), but that's a distinct question from the meaning of "market." Stop conflating the two and acting like you're obviously right. You're not. But go on convinced that you've got it all figured out and everyone else are just moron sheep. I'm sure that attitude serves you well in life and career.
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PlatonicBlackAndOrange84 wrote:Impressed that you have unmediated platonic knowledge of the meaning of words.Anonymous User wrote:@ BlackAndOrange84
"LOL. That whole argument that 'market' means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently."
Just because everyone in the profession uses it one way, does not make it so. Said one man to another back in the day, "Bro, everyone knows the world is flat. Come on."
A little more in seriousness, you haven't even made a convincing prescriptivist argument about the meaning of "market." I'm all for a little prescriptivism where it's warranted, but you're not right on either a prescriptivist or descriptivist view. Now maybe what you mean is that the fora and lawyers more generally don't measure market comp in the right or best way (and you're not entirely wrong there, there's something to be said for measuring comp by hours worked rather than by bottom line annual comp), but that's a distinct question from the meaning of "market." Stop conflating the two and acting like you're obviously right. You're not. But go on convinced that you've got it all figured out and everyone else are just moron sheep. I'm sure that attitude serves you well in life and career.
ETA: Take 2 minutes to figure out the quote feature if you're so smart.
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Folks we're totally forgetting to take COL into account for market, hence why all the Texas firms are clearly beating alleged compensation leaders like K&E and Gunderson...
Oh yeah Gunderson... Stimulating as it is, IDGAF about this existential "market" definition debate. Just give us our summer bonuses meow and we can end this useless thread.
Oh yeah Gunderson... Stimulating as it is, IDGAF about this existential "market" definition debate. Just give us our summer bonuses meow and we can end this useless thread.
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Fair.purpletiger wrote:PlatonicBlackAndOrange84 wrote:Impressed that you have unmediated platonic knowledge of the meaning of words.Anonymous User wrote:@ BlackAndOrange84
"LOL. That whole argument that 'market' means something other than the way everyone in the profession uses it was one of the worst arguments aired here recently."
Just because everyone in the profession uses it one way, does not make it so. Said one man to another back in the day, "Bro, everyone knows the world is flat. Come on."
A little more in seriousness, you haven't even made a convincing prescriptivist argument about the meaning of "market." I'm all for a little prescriptivism where it's warranted, but you're not right on either a prescriptivist or descriptivist view. Now maybe what you mean is that the fora and lawyers more generally don't measure market comp in the right or best way (and you're not entirely wrong there, there's something to be said for measuring comp by hours worked rather than by bottom line annual comp), but that's a distinct question from the meaning of "market." Stop conflating the two and acting like you're obviously right. You're not. But go on convinced that you've got it all figured out and everyone else are just moron sheep. I'm sure that attitude serves you well in life and career.
ETA: Take 2 minutes to figure out the quote feature if you're so smart.
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please don't turn this into another texas vs nyc biglaw thread. thxcornerstone wrote:Folks we're totally forgetting to take COL into account for market, hence why all the Texas firms are clearly beating alleged compensation leaders like K&E and Gunderson...
Oh yeah Gunderson... Stimulating as it is, IDGAF about this existential "market" definition debate. Just give us our summer bonuses meow and we can end this useless thread.
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The dream is clearly dead, folks.
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But “market” clearly means hourly comp discounted by COL.dabigchina wrote:please don't turn this into another texas vs nyc biglaw thread. thxcornerstone wrote:Folks we're totally forgetting to take COL into account for market, hence why all the Texas firms are clearly beating alleged compensation leaders like K&E and Gunderson...
Oh yeah Gunderson... Stimulating as it is, IDGAF about this existential "market" definition debate. Just give us our summer bonuses meow and we can end this useless thread.
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All I know is that market means matching Gunderson. There, problem solved.BlackAndOrange84 wrote:But “market” clearly means hourly comp discounted by COL.dabigchina wrote:please don't turn this into another texas vs nyc biglaw thread. thxcornerstone wrote:Folks we're totally forgetting to take COL into account for market, hence why all the Texas firms are clearly beating alleged compensation leaders like K&E and Gunderson...
Oh yeah Gunderson... Stimulating as it is, IDGAF about this existential "market" definition debate. Just give us our summer bonuses meow and we can end this useless thread.
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Br3v wrote:Congrats guys, we did it!
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I actually think I’m gonna have to cancel my reservation at Masa. Was really thinking we’d get a bonus.
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I heard from a friend that someone asked about summer bonuses at the Kirkland meeting. Is that true? What was the mood?
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The ATL article says that happened.Anonymous User wrote:I heard from a friend that someone asked about summer bonuses at the Kirkland meeting. Is that true? What was the mood?
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Link?2013 wrote:The ATL article says that happened.Anonymous User wrote:I heard from a friend that someone asked about summer bonuses at the Kirkland meeting. Is that true? What was the mood?
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https://abovethelaw.com/2019/06/biglaw- ... -kirkland/Br3v wrote:Link?2013 wrote:The ATL article says that happened.Anonymous User wrote:I heard from a friend that someone asked about summer bonuses at the Kirkland meeting. Is that true? What was the mood?
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Can confirm the question was asked and answered in the negative. Would expect KE to follow peer firms, but confirmed they aren't going to lead the charge.
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Where tf is my bonus?
Mods, can you please delete dump posts from summers and make sure this is bumped up instead of spending 15 hours a day un-anoning people?
Mods, can you please delete dump posts from summers and make sure this is bumped up instead of spending 15 hours a day un-anoning people?
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