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Re: NYC to 200k

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:00 pm

If firms with comparatively modest PPP marks like Ropes and Goodwin (both around $2 million) are matching that means pretty much everyone in the V50 has got to match, I should think. (Not that it wasn't going to happen anyway.)

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Re: NYC to 200k

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For this special bonus only, we will use an 1,850 hours threshold and will look at whether you have achieved this target based on your annualized hours for fiscal year 2018 through May 31, 2018. These bonuses will be subject to proration based on start date, part-time and leave arrangements.
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Re: NYC to 200k

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For this special bonus only, we will use an 1,850 hours threshold and will look at whether you have achieved this target based on your annualized hours for fiscal year 2018 through May 31, 2018. These bonuses will be subject to proration based on start date, part-time and leave arrangements.
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Re: NYC to 200k

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What do bonuses look like year-to-year now?

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Anonymous User wrote:What do bonuses look like year-to-year now?
Bonuses to 200

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Re: NYC to 200k

Post by JustHawkin » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:27 pm

Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?

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Re: NYC to 200k

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JustHawkin wrote:Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?
Latham and Gibson are both asleep at the wheel. I don't see how they don't both match today.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Anonymous User wrote: GDC compensation is the same across all US offices, although they've tried before to not do that. The only difference right now is that the NY office doesn't have an hours requirement for bonuses, but also doesn't get a bump for higher hours either.
No GDC office has an hours requirement for bonuses (1950 is unofficial). Maybe you're more likely to get a bonus with fewer than 1950 hours in the NY office (I have no insight into that, but if it were the case, it would be case by case).
NY office you get a full bonus no matter what. Other offices you're *very* likely to get a half bonus if you don't hit 1950. You will definitely get a full bonus if you hit 1950, even if half of that is pro bono. Other offices you also get bumps for "better work" (i.e. you bill a lot more than 1950, like 2300).
Isn't it funny how "better work" is almost always synonymous with "bill more hours?" I find it total bullshit that firms try to pretend that it's about work quality and not quantity.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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JustHawkin wrote:Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?
Latham and Gibson are both asleep at the wheel. I don't see how they don't both match today.
Something something three hour delay... something... simultaneous Latham demotions

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Anonymous User wrote:The firms keep saying they're giving bonuses to associates "in good standing." Can anyone shed light on what that means?
Generally means you're not about to be fired.
Well, I guess you'll get a heads up if you should start thinking about a lateral move.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Anonymous User wrote: GDC compensation is the same across all US offices, although they've tried before to not do that. The only difference right now is that the NY office doesn't have an hours requirement for bonuses, but also doesn't get a bump for higher hours either.
No GDC office has an hours requirement for bonuses (1950 is unofficial). Maybe you're more likely to get a bonus with fewer than 1950 hours in the NY office (I have no insight into that, but if it were the case, it would be case by case).
NY office you get a full bonus no matter what. Other offices you're *very* likely to get a half bonus if you don't hit 1950. You will definitely get a full bonus if you hit 1950, even if half of that is pro bono. Other offices you also get bumps for "better work" (i.e. you bill a lot more than 1950, like 2300).
At least you get a half bonus at sub-1950. At some firms you get *NOTHING* if you don't hit hours. There's no such thing as a partial-bonus at my firm--there are prorated bonuses if you took leave but no partial bonuses.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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JustHawkin wrote:Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?
Latham and Gibson are both asleep at the wheel. I don't see how they don't both match today.
GDC is going to wait for Latham.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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JustHawkin wrote:Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?
Latham and Gibson are both asleep at the wheel. I don't see how they don't both match today.
GDC is going to wait for Latham.
What the fuck are they waiting for? The market rate is set, either match it or GTFO and accept your shit tier status.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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JustHawkin wrote:Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?
Latham and Gibson are both asleep at the wheel. I don't see how they don't both match today.
GDC is going to wait for Latham.
What the fuck are they waiting for? The market rate is set, either match it or GTFO and accept your shit tier status.
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Re: NYC to 200k

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JustHawkin wrote:Why does it seem like GDC is late to the party?
Latham and Gibson are both asleep at the wheel. I don't see how they don't both match today.
GDC is going to wait for Latham.
What the fuck are they waiting for? The market rate is set, either match it or GTFO and accept your shit tier status.
They are always late movers. They are probably waiting to figure out what they can get away with in terms of special bonus language (i.e., see what Latham does).

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Re: NYC to 200k

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:09 pm

Yeah this peer-firms-playing-chicken thing is pretty tiresome. Latham’s waiting for GDC who’s waiting for Latham.

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Re: NYC to 200k

Post by androstan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Yeah this peer-firms-playing-chicken thing is pretty tiresome. Latham’s waiting for GDC who’s waiting for Latham.
No way GDC or Latham is waiting for the other now that K&E/Skadden/etc. have matched.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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androstan wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Yeah this peer-firms-playing-chicken thing is pretty tiresome. Latham’s waiting for GDC who’s waiting for Latham.
No way GDC or Latham is waiting for the other now that K&E/Skadden/etc. have matched.
GDC is probably deciding on Denve, Latham on SD or something.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Anonymous User wrote:Yeah this peer-firms-playing-chicken thing is pretty tiresome. Latham’s waiting for GDC who’s waiting for Latham.
Cue GDC and LaTTTham summers polishing resume for dat Quinn 3L OCI bonus.

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Latham mid-level polishing resume

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Re: NYC to 200k

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Yeah this peer-firms-playing-chicken thing is pretty tiresome. Latham’s waiting for GDC who’s waiting for Latham.
Cue GDC and LaTTTham summers polishing resume for dat Quinn 3L OCI bonus.
Is Quinn still doing the 3L bonus now that they started their summer program up again?

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Re: NYC to 200k

Post by jd20132013 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:36 pm

what notable firms have failed to match?

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Re: NYC to 200k

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jd20132013 wrote:what notable firms have failed to match?
Cadwalader

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Re: NYC to 200k

Post by Emma. » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:41 pm

jd20132013 wrote:what notable firms have failed to match?
https://abovethelaw.com/2018/06/salary- ... ises-2018/

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Re: NYC to 200k

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jd20132013 wrote:what notable firms have failed to match?
Cadwalader
Big DC firms like Cov, WH, A&P, Hogan, W&C*.

Some Texas firms like V&E and Baker.

GDC and Latham per discussion above.

Milbank & Winston are behind the times.

The rest of the magic circle.

Probably missing something here, not an active jab at firms not listed.

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