Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

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Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby nick832 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:20 pm

I found starting salaries for immigration lawyers and am amazed as to how low they are. Any ideas why?

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby Jchance » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:37 pm

Follow the money. Think who the client is and how deep her pocket is.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby sittykitty » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:40 pm

nick832 wrote:I found starting salaries for immigration lawyers and am amazed as to how low they are. Any ideas why?

It's not glamorous work -- immigration cases are high volume but rarely complex; clients typically pay flat rate, and firms have to solicit institutional clients that are rapidly expanding in order to survive.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:56 pm

if you are comparing to big law, the clients don't have the same ability to pay

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby Hopefullitassociate » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:09 am

Because immigrants generally don't have the resources to pay a lot of money for legal services, and most public interest organizations working in immigration law are stretched extremely thinly when it comes to budgets compared to the amount of work that's needed.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby nick832 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:12 am

I also noticed that many government jobs are underpaid. Their salaries are public record. Many of them are making 60k after working in law for more than a decade. I am like WTF.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby TheoO » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:28 pm

There's no shortage of immigration lawyers, they are dime-a-dozen (since there is no shortage of TTT grads) and as already mentioned, the clientele isn't exactly high paying. To make a lot, you need to basically have a very high volume that usually comes from some institutional client that you manage to grab.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby ecafracs » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:29 pm

The only way to make real money in immigration is to work for Fragomen or one of the other large business immigration firms. The average immigrant doesn't have a lot of money, and a lot of immigration law services are provided by charities and public interest groups who have no money either.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby nealric » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:39 pm

nick832 wrote:I also noticed that many government jobs are underpaid. Their salaries are public record. Many of them are making 60k after working in law for more than a decade. I am like WTF.


That government jobs aren't high paying should be news to nobody. Now, consider that many new law graduates fight tooth and nail for government jobs paying considerably less than that.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby unlicensedpotato » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:40 pm

It's too easy

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby XxSpyKEx » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:16 pm

unlicensedpotato wrote:It's too easy


Immigration law is actually pretty complex (unnecessarily so). I'd say it's right up there with tax law in terms of "WTF is this shit" type of stuff when you wind up having to look at it. The reason the pay for immigration lawyers is generally low is what others have already said--that immigrants don't have a lot of money. Many wind up representing themselves.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby nick832 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:16 pm

All that makes sense. And I understand that government jobs are generally low paid. However, consider that a teacher with 10 years of experience where I live makes at least 60k. And he/she did not have to go to LS and incur lots of debts. I was under assumption that lawyers got paid considerably more. Good thing that I am looking up actual salaries.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby ClubberLang » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:31 pm

The pay is low because people there are scores of people willing to work for those wages.

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby InGoodFaith » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:39 pm

It's a job Americans don't want to do

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby MaxMcMann » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:05 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:It's a job Americans don't want to do


The good news is that as soon as we get that wall immigration firms are skyrocketing right to the top of the PPP rankings!

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby pleasedonttouchmyRAP » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:16 am

MaxMcMann wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:It's a job Americans don't want to do


The good news is that as soon as we get that wall immigration firms are skyrocketing right to the top of the PPP rankings!

Public interest to 190 confirmed

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby jd20132013 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:45 am

Lol at this thread

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Re: Why is Immigration Law Pay so Low

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:32 pm

as someone mentioned earlier, immigration law is usually flat rate and the clients don't have deep pockets. clients pay for different services, like filing an application or representing them in deportation proceedings, but there isn't so much of a drawn out legal strategy. despite the low pay, the work can be less stressful than other areas of law. to make money, you either must have a high volume practice that filters for clients who can pay or work with institutions.



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