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Re: Soonest quitting as a first-year
Anyone regret going into law at this point already?
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Me!Anonymous User wrote:Anyone regret going into law at this point already?
Already doing interviews.
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You lateraling already? Could you share more on what you're interviewing for? Curious for my own sake. Been getting deluged with work and not clear on when I'll get a break, if ever.Anonymous User wrote:Me!Anonymous User wrote:Anyone regret going into law at this point already?
Already doing interviews.
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I've done a couple of iBanking interviews, a quasi-legal in house transactional role, and a couple others. Not looking at lateraling really. I was looking at one point but the stub year market is dead.Anonymous User wrote:You lateraling already? Could you share more on what you're interviewing for? Curious for my own sake. Been getting deluged with work and not clear on when I'll get a break, if ever.Anonymous User wrote:Me!Anonymous User wrote:Anyone regret going into law at this point already?
Already doing interviews.
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I assume you are in a major market? How is the market for that sort of thing (non law role for newly minted JDs)Anonymous User wrote: I've done a couple of iBanking interviews, a quasi-legal in house transactional role, and a couple others. Not looking at lateraling really. I was looking at one point but the stub year market is dead.
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Biglaw partners in (some markets) at (some firms) might make more than a VP of Sales, but who do you think, on average, works more? I bet dollar per hour the VP of Sales works half as much.Anonymous User wrote:-Assumings your big tech firm is a LinkedIn, Amazon, Salesforce, etc... you'll very likely keep pace with biglaw comp through to senior associate, but you'll likely never make biglaw partner compensation unless you make VP of Sales (you'll still make less than biglaw partner comp but there are tons of Sales VPs in Big Tech that are printing $500k-$600k).Anonymous User wrote:I have a question for the anon OP considering going back to a sales role:
I'm considering a big law gig or taking a sales role in a large, well-known tech firm. The job is similar to an account manager type position where you work with clients and have sales quotas to meet each year. Salary is around 120k, 40k signing bonus, and stock. I'm wondering whether it's worth taking this job over big law. My hesitation is sales and whether it leads to good exit opportunities (say I want to work in strategy/operations or some other business role later). I don't mind not practicing law, I just want to choose the career that leads to good future opportunities and ideally doesn't have crazy hours like big law.
Plus, don't forget, partners, no matter the size of the firm, are essential salesmen themselves. After all, if they can't sell their practice, they'll never make partner to begin with or take home a percentage of the business they can manage to bring in.
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Well more power to you. I feel like walking out some days. Today is one of those days. Drained, tired, wishing I had the weekend to recharge but I don't, unsure when it's going to get better.Anonymous User wrote:I've done a couple of iBanking interviews, a quasi-legal in house transactional role, and a couple others. Not looking at lateraling really. I was looking at one point but the stub year market is dead.Anonymous User wrote:You lateraling already? Could you share more on what you're interviewing for? Curious for my own sake. Been getting deluged with work and not clear on when I'll get a break, if ever.Anonymous User wrote:Me!Anonymous User wrote:Anyone regret going into law at this point already?
Already doing interviews.
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Sort of curious about the quasi-legal in-house role... I suppose you can't share too many details, though. Is it a contracts manager type position?
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Anonymous User wrote:Sort of curious about the quasi-legal in-house role... I suppose you can't share too many details, though. Is it a contracts manager type position?
Corporate development with the idea I could negotiate NDA's, do some diligence, and other legal stuff but do primarily valuation work.
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Update - took an IR/legal hybrid role at an investment fund. Really just need to shoot out those apps.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Sort of curious about the quasi-legal in-house role... I suppose you can't share too many details, though. Is it a contracts manager type position?
Corporate development with the idea I could negotiate NDA's, do some diligence, and other legal stuff but do primarily valuation work.
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^Congratulations! How are you liking it? Also, hard to keep track of all the anon OPs. Are you now a second year, or were you a stub who is just 6 months into big law right now?
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^Congratulations! How are you liking it? Also, hard to keep track of all the anon OPs. Are you now a second year, or were you a stub who is just 6 months into big law right now?
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Hi Anon. I'm also very curious about your move to this new role. Would it be okay if I shoot you a PM?Anonymous User wrote:Update - took an IR/legal hybrid role at an investment fund. Really just need to shoot out those apps.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Sort of curious about the quasi-legal in-house role... I suppose you can't share too many details, though. Is it a contracts manager type position?
Corporate development with the idea I could negotiate NDA's, do some diligence, and other legal stuff but do primarily valuation work.
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Yugihoe wrote:^Congratulations! How are you liking it? Also, hard to keep track of all the anon OPs. Are you now a second year, or were you a stub who is just 6 months into big law right now?
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Any other first years have a classmate quit already?
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Someone at my firm quit after two weeks and decided to back to his job before law school. So it happens.
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my hours have been brutal recently and hearing about other people quitting early is, unironically, extremely satisfying.
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Yeah a girl in my class did. Apparently she had a breakdown. Biglaw secondary market fwiwcron1834 wrote:Any other first years have a classmate quit already?
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After a pretty steady and enjoyable January, I have about 30 hours this month. I'm bored and also worried about having to play catchup the rest of the year. Not super enthused.
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5 months in, definitely starting to realize that BigLaw is a bad deal.
I'm no stranger to working long hours. But working unpredictable hours? It's completely demoralizing. I'm chained to my phone. There are days (actually, most days) where I do nothing until 4pm and then get hit with a 5-hour project that HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW.
I can't plan anything. I used to love hiking, but the thought of being away from email for 4 hours gives me anxiety.
Yeah, the money is nice, but I honestly don't think it's worth it. I'm not building towards anything. I don't get ownership in the law firm. And the money is not life-changing...I can't afford to buy a house in the city I grew up in on a BigLaw salary. Maybe it would have been different/worth it 10-15 years ago? Also, what's even the point of the money if I don't have time to spend it?
Seriously considering taking a 50% pay cut to do something else. Maybe take on a business role where I can help build a company and actually get ownership in it.
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I'm no stranger to working long hours. But working unpredictable hours? It's completely demoralizing. I'm chained to my phone. There are days (actually, most days) where I do nothing until 4pm and then get hit with a 5-hour project that HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW.
I can't plan anything. I used to love hiking, but the thought of being away from email for 4 hours gives me anxiety.
Yeah, the money is nice, but I honestly don't think it's worth it. I'm not building towards anything. I don't get ownership in the law firm. And the money is not life-changing...I can't afford to buy a house in the city I grew up in on a BigLaw salary. Maybe it would have been different/worth it 10-15 years ago? Also, what's even the point of the money if I don't have time to spend it?
Seriously considering taking a 50% pay cut to do something else. Maybe take on a business role where I can help build a company and actually get ownership in it.
v100 non-NYC corporate.
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Well first of all a fifty percent pay cut from biglaw is an immense amount of money lol. But in any case I always advise folks to make it a year unless they're like...near a breakdown. Get your bonus and see if you don't get better at it
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How common is poor management in law firms?
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What kind of jobs are out there for a first year quitting right now? (So about 7 months in). I would actually take a pay cut even down to $120k if it meant 9-6 or 9-7 with no weekend work.
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I'd imagine very (I'm at a firm dealing with this). I'm quitting as soon as I line ANYTHING up.Anonymous User wrote:How common is poor management in law firms?
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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