ITT we rank firms based on most atrocious opposing counsel Forum

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:49 pm

What firms have you practiced against that have the most atrocious (be it work product, demeanor, etc.) counsel? Bonus points for stories

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:51 pm

If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

kellyfrost · Post by **kellyfrost** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:56 pm

I don't want to name any names, but their email address ends in "@yahoo.com"

SmokeytheBear · Post by **SmokeytheBear** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:00 pm

I'll say what we're all thinking.

Kirkland.

Kirkland even agrees.

clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:12 pm

firm-wide generalization based off interaction with 1, 2, 3, or 4 attorneys.. cool...

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:20 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.

Department of Justice

gaddockteeg · Post by **gaddockteeg** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:54 pm

Completely anecdotal and I'm certain this is the exception and not the rule: But I have been really unimpressed with the SullCrom lit associates that I've crossed paths with.

I've worked extensively with 3 of them and 2 were both pretty bad. 1 was a lateral to my firm and didn't last more than a year before getting asked to leave. Other was co-counsel at another v5 firm but had lateraled after 4 years at SullCrom. Both had brilliant resumes (federal clerks in competitive districts, CCN+LR, etc) but both were still terrible writers, blew deadlines, etc.

Third S&C guy Ive worked with is still at my firm and he's great and has a shot at partner.

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:59 pm

Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice

Hahahahahahahaha you poor deluded soul.

(By which I mean if you think they're bad opposing counsel you haven't encountered bad opposing counsel yet.)

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:04 pm

Munger. by a mile.

hiima3L · Post by **hiima3L** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:07 pm

99% of the time: "Law Offices of [Name]."

I can think of exactly one exception - some dude who is The Guy for his niche.

hiima3L · Post by **hiima3L** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:08 pm

Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice

Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.

jingosaur · Post by **jingosaur** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:11 pm

Guy with email [firstname][lastname]law@hotmail.com

los blancos · Post by **los blancos** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:16 pm

A somewhat well-regarded Chicago lit boutique (that got its ass kicked), including a name partner who was kind of a self-righteous prick.

clshopeful · Post by **clshopeful** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:37 pm

hiima3L wrote:
Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.

This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 1200 lawyer firm is rude and disrespectful.

sms18 · Post by **sms18** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:49 pm

Nebby wrote:What firms have you practiced against that have the most atrocious (be it work product, demeanor, etc.) counsel? Bonus points for stories

Weil Gotshal

84651846190 · Post by **84651846190** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:15 pm

Quinn

LurkerTurnedMember · Post by **LurkerTurnedMember** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:20 pm

Jennings Larson & Perden

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:21 pm

clshopeful wrote:
hiima3L wrote:
Nebby wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If you really want to do this, you go first, Nebby.
Department of Justice
Yes, all 10,000,000 DOJ lawyers are bad.
This is what I was referring to. Last thing we need on TLS is even more generalizations. How can this thread even be taken seriously. You work on a case with opposing counsel at firm X. The 3 people you work with are all rude and are disrespectful. Therefore, the entire 12 office, 1200 lawyer firm is rude and disrespectful.

This thread was inspired by a colleagues story about a senior at an opposing firm that would legit yell at our counsel on the phone. It sounded absurd

cookiejar1 · Post by **cookiejar1** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:32 pm

Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat

http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/

Mullens · Post by **Mullens** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:36 pm

cookiejar1 wrote:Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat

http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/

Apparently this guy is a partner at McDermott in Chicago now. I'm sure he's a treat to work for.

acr · Post by **acr** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:38 pm

Not my story, but heard from a practicing friend that he's had some pretty bad experiences with Jones Day. Said that opposing counsel at Jones Day once yelled at my friend's team over the phone and told one of the attorneys he went to a "third rate law school."

jkpolk · Post by **jkpolk** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:54 pm

ExBiglawAssociate wrote:Quinn

foregetaboutdre · Post by **foregetaboutdre** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:00 am

[quote="cookiejar1"]Not necessarily on topic but the last post reminded me of this voicemail and if you haven't heard it yet then you're in for a real treat

http://www.kinsellalaw.com/2004/08/24/a ... -internet/[/ Interesting VM. At first I thought he was yelling at some small firm guy or something, but he was yelling at a NYC Latham associate. Yikes

Monochromatic Oeuvre · Post by **Monochromatic Oeuvre** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:21 am

Kirkland is so monolithically dickish that I assume they have some sort of asshole sleep conditioning program there.

Not a liTTTigator but I hear the same thing about Quinn from coworkers.

As far as incompetent, it would be a much shorter list to have the ones who WERE mostly competent.

Rahviveh · Post by **Rahviveh** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:45 am

One of the few good things about being a lawyer is being a dick to opposing counsel.

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