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Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:30 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Not to throw further shade here, but PH is pretty bad. Certain partners act like you owe them a huge favor for being able to work there/lord their power over you, steal your hours for themselves/pressure you not to bill too much, backbite about other associates/partners, etc. etc. Several associates are being fired left and right for no reason at all, including people who are just slightly below the 2000 hour requirement (I can think of at least 5 examples in the past two months). They are trying to increase their profitability for purposes of rankings, and will stop at nothing to achieve this. Stay away, there are many firms that are better prestige-wise and also treat you humanely.
Appreciate the warning. What practice group are you?
Not the poster above, but the bolded is true of my practice group and I'm in corporate. Seriously, if you can help it, stay away.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:03 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Not to throw further shade here, but PH is pretty bad. Certain partners act like you owe them a huge favor for being able to work there/lord their power over you, steal your hours for themselves/pressure you not to bill too much, backbite about other associates/partners, etc. etc. Several associates are being fired left and right for no reason at all, including people who are just slightly below the 2000 hour requirement (I can think of at least 5 examples in the past two months). They are trying to increase their profitability for purposes of rankings, and will stop at nothing to achieve this. Stay away, there are many firms that are better prestige-wise and also treat you humanely.
Appreciate the warning. What practice group are you?
Not the poster above, but the bolded is true of my practice group and I'm in corporate. Seriously, if you can help it, stay away.
Don't have the culture problem in my office but we probably over hired, my group is extremely bottom heavy, not sure what they are going to do when the incoming class joins this fall.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:10 pm
by pml87
I can confirm that PH does give out cold offer for no apparent reason rather than the fact that they over-hired for the summer class.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:25 pm
by RaceJudicata
pml87 wrote:I can confirm that PH does give out cold offer for no apparent reason rather than the fact that they over-hired for the summer class.
Or maybe you got cold offered because of your writing skills . . .
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:47 pm
by pml87
RaceJudicata wrote:pml87 wrote:I can confirm that PH does give out cold offer for no apparent reason rather than the fact that they over-hired for the summer class.
Or maybe you got cold offered because of your writing skills . . .
This is not the first time you acted like a pain in the neck. Is there something wrong with you? Anger management issues, perhaps? No, I didn't summer for PH. You seem so ready to assume ulterior motive.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:21 am
by RaceJudicata
pml87 wrote:RaceJudicata wrote:pml87 wrote:I can confirm that PH does give out cold offer for no apparent reason rather than the fact that they over-hired for the summer class.
Or maybe you got cold offered because of your writing skills . . .
This is not the first time you acted like a pain in the neck. Is there something wrong with you? Anger management issues, perhaps? No, I didn't summer for PH. You seem so ready to assume ulterior motive.
I think no-offering (or cold offering) someone based on poor writing skills is more legitimate than doing the same for over hiring. So no, not ready to assume ulterior motives.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:02 am
by Anonymous User
Heard from people who summered in the NY office that they drastically overhired, but that the firm said they'd find space for everyone
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:19 am
by dabigchina
Anonymous User wrote:Heard from people who summered in the NY office that they drastically overhired, but that the firm said they'd find space for everyone
The firm openly communicated to associates that they over hired? That seems like a bad sign...
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:30 pm
by Anonymous User
Just got the talk from the partners in the PH LA office. They are giving me a few months to find another job. I had billables of 1950+ for past few years. Always had excellent performance reviews. Was told that I was significantly below the expected hours rate (apparently unofficially at 2150+). What should I do? Why did I give so many years of my life to this f****** place? Feeling a mix of intense anger and extreme fear/despair.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:57 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Just got the talk from the partners in the PH LA office. They are giving me a few months to find another job. I had billables of 1950+ for past few years. Always had excellent performance reviews. Was told that I was significantly below the expected hours rate (apparently unofficially at 2150+). What should I do? Why did I give so many years of my life to this f****** place? Feeling a mix of intense anger and extreme fear/despair.
Seriously my condolences man, it's quite obvious there is something seriously wrong with PH LA at the moment, business-wise, it's not a reflection on you. The 2150 hours is nonsense, I'm quite confident most people in your group didn't hit that last year. Out of curiosity, are you junior (1-3 years), midlevel, or senior? Obviously start looking and talking to recruiters. Try to ask for more website time (if they offered 3 months, ask for 6 months at least).
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:59 pm
by Borhas
Anonymous User wrote:Just got the talk from the partners in the PH LA office. They are giving me a few months to find another job. I had billables of 1950+ for past few years. Always had excellent performance reviews. Was told that I was significantly below the expected hours rate (apparently unofficially at 2150+). What should I do? Why did I give so many years of my life to this f****** place? Feeling a mix of intense anger and extreme fear/despair.
stop working so hard at the job, and start working out more and sleeping better and all the stuff you wanted to do but didn't quite have the time for, and apply for jobs at less shitty firms.
Given all the issues with the firm I think you can rule out your own shittiness as a factor, don't think of it as getting fired but more like a soft getting laid off
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:04 am
by Anonymous User
PH first year here. It's been communicated in my office that the incoming class is larger than anticipated and they're not sure what they're going to do with them all. Given what's happening at Dechert and the strange circumstances under which the last anon was let go, should PH associates be worried?
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:16 am
by Vincent Adultman
Anonymous User wrote:PH first year here. It's been communicated in my office that the incoming class is larger than anticipated and they're not sure what they're going to do with them all. Given what's happening at Dechert and the strange circumstances under which the last anon was let go, should PH associates be worried?
Nope. Everything sounds like it's going great!
(Jump ship ASAP)
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:33 pm
by Anonymous User
I wouldn't start looking unless you aren't busy. Then I would.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 4:08 pm
by Anonymous User
It wasn't all that long ago when PH shitcanned an associate days after her miscarriage:
http://abovethelaw.com/2008/05/breaking ... s-layoffs/
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:23 pm
by Pokemon
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:49 pm
by Anonymous User
Remember, this is the BEST FIRM to work for according to various surveys . . . that talent development purposely juices by bugging certain associates to take surveys and not sending it to trouble makers.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:02 pm
by Npret
Anonymous User wrote:Remember, this is the BEST FIRM to work for according to various surveys . . . that talent development purposely juices by bugging certain associates to take surveys and not sending it to trouble makers.
Every firm goes over the surveys with associates who get them. I got calls from recruiting just to remind me to say good stuff.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:14 pm
by HonestAdvice
Pokemon wrote:
Damn, this is bad.
I'm sure this has happened 100s of time before (death in the family, illness, etc.). She's just the only one who wrote an e-mail about it. I'm not defending it, but am pointing out that human nature is to not to broadcast deeply personal information and that for every story like this there are probably several hundred that go untold.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:08 pm
by throwaway6856767
So I'm one of the individuals who will be in the LA Office this upcoming summer as a summer associate. Obviously reading this thread, I'm worried, but it's not like I have too many other options at this rate. What would any of y'all suggest for how to approach the situation, besides keeping my eye out and trying to a) see if the above rumors are true and b) obviously putting my best foot forward in terms of work product.
Also, if any of the above posters wouldn't mind PMing me with any other information, that'd be fantastic.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:45 pm
by Anonymous User
m=My significant other has an offer to lateral into litigation at PH SF.
Yay or Nay (keep looking)?
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:25 pm
by Anonymous User
At the PH reception in my school, one recruiter told me that they overhired in 2016 and they had to downsize their 2017 summer class.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:12 am
by mister logical
throwaway6856767 wrote:So I'm one of the individuals who will be in the LA Office this upcoming summer as a summer associate. Obviously reading this thread, I'm worried, but it's not like I have too many other options at this rate. What would any of y'all suggest for how to approach the situation, besides keeping my eye out and trying to a) see if the above rumors are true and b) obviously putting my best foot forward in terms of work product.
Also, if any of the above posters wouldn't mind PMing me with any other information, that'd be fantastic.
general advice is don't fuck up so bad you get no offered, but don't try to be a super star either because that can rub some people the wrong way too, just turn in good work product, be social at social events, and be normal.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:06 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:m=My significant other has an offer to lateral into litigation at PH SF.
Yay or Nay (keep looking)?
In my experience, the problems discussed on this post are inapplicable to the SF office. No explosive personalities in the litigation department.
Re: Paul Hastings Offer Rate
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:54 pm
by BeeTeeZ
Anonymous User wrote:There are people who've accepted cold offers though and had no issues when they showed up next fall.
Legendary. That is partner material right there.