I thought STB NY was always ~100Anonymous User wrote:What were the past years?Anonymous User wrote:This seems way down from past yearsAnonymous User wrote:STB NY: 77 or 76
Columbia - 13
Harvard - 11
NYU - 7
UVA - 3
Penn - 7
Fordham - 1
Stanford - 3
Duke - 2
GULC - 3
Yale - 4
UChicago - 7
UMichigan – 2
Seton Hall – 2
Vanderbilt – 1
St. Johns -2
Cornell - 4
Northwestern - 4
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Per NALP - 2015 = 91 SAs (and of course, 91 offers).
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There are 108 total at STB this year Houston – 6, Los Angeles – 4, Palo Alto - 15, Washington DC – 6. So idk where that leaves us
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There are 108 total at STB this year Houston – 6, Los Angeles – 4, Palo Alto - 15, Washington DC – 6. So idk where that leaves us
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Consistently embarrassing performance by NYU among the V5 firms. FTGE.
Anonymous User wrote:STB NY: 77 or 76
Columbia - 13
Harvard - 11
NYU - 7
UVA - 3
Penn - 7
Fordham - 1
Stanford - 3
Duke - 2
GULC - 3
Yale - 4
UChicago - 7
UMichigan – 2
Seton Hall – 2
Vanderbilt – 1
St. Johns -2
Cornell - 4
Northwestern - 4
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Better than Yale!Wild Card wrote:Consistently embarrassing performance by NYU among the V5 firms. FTGE.
Anonymous User wrote:STB NY: 77 or 76
Columbia - 13
Harvard - 11
NYU - 7
UVA - 3
Penn - 7
Fordham - 1
Stanford - 3
Duke - 2
GULC - 3
Yale - 4
UChicago - 7
UMichigan – 2
Seton Hall – 2
Vanderbilt – 1
St. Johns -2
Cornell - 4
Northwestern - 4
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Davis Polk, all offices
Total - 138
NYU 23
Columbia 17
Harvard 16
Yale 15
Stanford 7
Penn 7
Virginia 6
Georgetown 5
Michigan 5
Berkeley 4
Fordham 4
Northwestern 4
Cornell 3
Chicago 3
Duke 3
Brooklyn 2
UCLA 2
UC Hastings 2
Hofstra 2
Osgoode 1
George Washington 1
Emory 1
St. John's 1
Vanderbilt 1
Howard 1
BYU 1
Seton Hall 1
Total - 138
NYU 23
Columbia 17
Harvard 16
Yale 15
Stanford 7
Penn 7
Virginia 6
Georgetown 5
Michigan 5
Berkeley 4
Fordham 4
Northwestern 4
Cornell 3
Chicago 3
Duke 3
Brooklyn 2
UCLA 2
UC Hastings 2
Hofstra 2
Osgoode 1
George Washington 1
Emory 1
St. John's 1
Vanderbilt 1
Howard 1
BYU 1
Seton Hall 1
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S&C all offices - 127 SAs (including at least some 1Ls)
Harvard - 19
Yale - 13
Columbia - 10
NYU - 10
UTexas - 6
UVA - 5
Chicago - 4
Cornell - 4
Toronto - 4
USC - 4
William & Mary - 4
Duke - 3
Fordham - 3
Michigan - 3
UCLA - 3
BC - 2
BU - 2
BYU - 2
Emory - 2
GW - 2
GULC - 2
Minnesota - 2
Penn - 2
Berkeley - 1
Georgia - 1
Illinois - 1
Osgoode - 1
Pepperdine - 1
Ohio State - 1
Tulane - 1
UC Hastings - 1
Vanderbilt - 1
Villanova - 1
WUSTL - 1
Harvard - 19
Yale - 13
Columbia - 10
NYU - 10
UTexas - 6
UVA - 5
Chicago - 4
Cornell - 4
Toronto - 4
USC - 4
William & Mary - 4
Duke - 3
Fordham - 3
Michigan - 3
UCLA - 3
BC - 2
BU - 2
BYU - 2
Emory - 2
GW - 2
GULC - 2
Minnesota - 2
Penn - 2
Berkeley - 1
Georgia - 1
Illinois - 1
Osgoode - 1
Pepperdine - 1
Ohio State - 1
Tulane - 1
UC Hastings - 1
Vanderbilt - 1
Villanova - 1
WUSTL - 1
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Was S&C's recruiter at W&M just in a particularly good mood that day or what?Anonymous User wrote:S&C all offices - 127 SAs (including at least some 1Ls)
Harvard - 19
Yale - 13
Columbia - 10
NYU - 10
UTexas - 6
UVA - 5
Chicago - 4
Cornell - 4
Toronto - 4
USC - 4
William & Mary - 4
Duke - 3
Fordham - 3
Michigan - 3
UCLA - 3
BC - 2
BU - 2
BYU - 2
Emory - 2
GW - 2
GULC - 2
Minnesota - 2
Penn - 2
Berkeley - 1
Georgia - 1
Illinois - 1
Osgoode - 1
Pepperdine - 1
Ohio State - 1
Tulane - 1
UC Hastings - 1
Vanderbilt - 1
Villanova - 1
WUSTL - 1
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He actually was supposed to meet the rest of the group at UVA but was so drunk that he took a wrong turn in Richmond. I don't think he ever realized he wasn't at UVA. But the firm was nice enough to keep the offers open. I wonder what sort of blackmail W&M had to make that happen.Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Was S&C's recruiter at W&M just in a particularly good mood that day or what?
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So cravath has only 1 Yale compared to 15ish each for DPW and S&C? What's the reason for the discrepancy here?
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One contributing factor is that students at Yale aren't fond of the culture at Cravath or the idea of a full working summer in lit so they prefer its peers year after year--DPW and S&C are consistently in the 10-15 range, compared to CSM <5, since those firms offer the same opportunities and pedigree for people that want to spend a summer in the city. At YLS, due in part to the small class size and close-knit bordering on incestuous community, student opinions of firms from upper years have a significant impact on where the next classes choose to go; a number of well regarded students chose and work at DPW and S&C, and a number of other students may have had subpar experiences at Cravath, and that can have a lingering impact several years out. It's a very fickle process (and this doesn't apply to just these three firms): When several YLS students summer at any firm and come away with a particularly or negative and particularly positive impression--or get no-offered--word gets around. Similar at other top schools like SLS and CLS but perhaps not quite to the same extent (HLS might be large enough for relative anonymity to dominate the process, idk, although I'm sure there's institutional knowledge operating there as well).Rahviveh wrote:So cravath has only 1 Yale compared to 15ish each for DPW and S&C? What's the reason for the discrepancy here?
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Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
The Skadden/Cornell thing I find harder to explain. I know Skadden usually doesn't take many from Cornell, but I think many of the S&C/Cravath kids had Skadden offers and simply shy away from Skadden. I know the same argument can be made to many firms, but my impression is the elite Cornell kids almost blindly favor Cravath over Skadden.
Interestingly, Cleary took a ton of Cornell kids last year.
The Skadden/Cornell thing I find harder to explain. I know Skadden usually doesn't take many from Cornell, but I think many of the S&C/Cravath kids had Skadden offers and simply shy away from Skadden. I know the same argument can be made to many firms, but my impression is the elite Cornell kids almost blindly favor Cravath over Skadden.
Interestingly, Cleary took a ton of Cornell kids last year.
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O'Melveny & Myers NY:
BC - 1
Brooklyn - 1
Columbia - 3
Fordham - 4
GWU - 1
Harvard -2
NYU - 5
UChicago - 1
Yale - 1
Stanford - 1
BC - 1
Brooklyn - 1
Columbia - 3
Fordham - 4
GWU - 1
Harvard -2
NYU - 5
UChicago - 1
Yale - 1
Stanford - 1
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Cornell 3L here:Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
The Skadden/Cornell thing I find harder to explain. I know Skadden usually doesn't take many from Cornell, but I think many of the S&C/Cravath kids had Skadden offers and simply shy away from Skadden. I know the same argument can be made to many firms, but my impression is the elite Cornell kids almost blindly favor Cravath over Skadden.
Interestingly, Cleary took a ton of Cornell kids last year.
The partners who come to Cornell from Cravath are really, really good at what they do with respect to selling students on the "culture" of the firm.
The Skadden reputation at Cornell is ...not great to say the least. Skadden does give out a fair # of CBs, but many students turn down offers from them each year due to "sweatshop" rumors passed down from upperclassmen who have never worked there (whether true or not, idk).
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I figured S&C was a working summer as well but if not then that makes sense. Yale students just want that check cut and to chill all summmer and have no intention of going back. 180Anonymous User wrote:One contributing factor is that students at Yale aren't fond of the culture at Cravath or the idea of a full working summer in lit so they prefer its peers year after year--DPW and S&C are consistently in the 10-15 range, compared to CSM <5, since those firms offer the same opportunities and pedigree for people that want to spend a summer in the city. At YLS, due in part to the small class size and close-knit bordering on incestuous community, student opinions of firms from upper years have a significant impact on where the next classes choose to go; a number of well regarded students chose and work at DPW and S&C, and a number of other students may have had subpar experiences at Cravath, and that can have a lingering impact several years out. It's a very fickle process (and this doesn't apply to just these three firms): When several YLS students summer at any firm and come away with a particularly or negative and particularly positive impression--or get no-offered--word gets around. Similar at other top schools like SLS and CLS but perhaps not quite to the same extent (HLS might be large enough for relative anonymity to dominate the process, idk, although I'm sure there's institutional knowledge operating there as well).Rahviveh wrote:So cravath has only 1 Yale compared to 15ish each for DPW and S&C? What's the reason for the discrepancy here?
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This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
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Really? I've heard of one (1) person at Crvath who turned down Wachtell. Would be very surprised if it was "lots".Anonymous User wrote:This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
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1-2 people turn down Wachtell for another V5 each year. My year it was DPW, the year before me it was CSM, the year after I think S&C or DPW. It's definitely not "lots."Anonymous User wrote:Really? I've heard of one (1) person at Crvath who turned down Wachtell. Would be very surprised if it was "lots".Anonymous User wrote:This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
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I'm sureAnonymous User wrote:This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
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Lol yeah what kind of dummy turns down wachtell for cravath or s&c?bearsfan23 wrote:I'm sureAnonymous User wrote:This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.
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At least two Cornellians turned down Wachtell for Cravath and another firm this year. Whether they are dummies remain to be seen, but it happens
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Really? I heard Wachtell only offered one person at Cornell in the last few years?
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Really? I heard Wachtell only offered one person at Cornell in the last few years?
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Not true. At all.Anonymous User wrote:Really? I heard Wachtell only offered one person at Cornell in the last few years?
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