DOJ Honors 2016-2017 Cycle: Application Status Tracker in the OP - Please update! Forum

[catinthewall]

Assuming that any hiring freeze is not retroactive, and our jobs are safe in that sense, how common are RIFs or layoffs in the fed govt? When is the last time a significant number of federal employees were laid off?

Let me google that for you...

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversig ... -in-force/

It has happened as recently as 2014 in different parts of the federal government, including both the military and civilian sides.

[Anonymous User]

I just spoke with someone high up in ORAM, and she said in her 15+ years w/DOJ, through multiple freezes, HP hires have always been exempt.

RIF is a different story

[Anonymous User]

Assuming that any hiring freeze is not retroactive, and our jobs are safe in that sense, how common are RIFs or layoffs in the fed govt? When is the last time a significant number of federal employees were laid off?

Let me google that for you...

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversig ... -in-force/

It has happened as recently as 2014 in different parts of the federal government, including both the military and civilian sides.

Just be glad we're not trying to work at the Dept of Energy... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/po ... ition.html
The transition team is sending around a questionnaire looking for names of employees working on anything climate change related.

[thing2]

First-time poster. Considering a CRT offer and going back and forth. If any one is in the same position, it would be great to chat--shoot me a pm. Thanks.

I found this helpful, if not disheartening, when considering options and thinking through all this. There are a few articles that speak more generally about the DOJ and encourage people to still take the job, but they weren't specific to civil rights. From the people I've talked to, CRT attorneys in particular are concerned. Best of luck! (and/or what did you decide?) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... adb56fb8c7

[Anonymous User]

Just received a call telling me I didn't make the cut for atr-sf. Seems like their two offers have been accepted.

[Anonymous User]

Received an offer from ATR-WASH yesterday. Guessing I was an alternate and lucked out, but very happy regardless! Don't lose hope!

[Anonymous User]

Anybody get their reimbursement yet?

[Anonymous User]

Anybody get their reimbursement yet?

I did. There was a mixup that caused it to be delayed, but it finally came through.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody get their reimbursement yet?

I did. There was a mixup that caused it to be delayed, but it finally came through.

When did it come through? I'm still waiting on mine.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody get their reimbursement yet?

I did. There was a mixup that caused it to be delayed, but it finally came through.

When did it come through? I'm still waiting on mine.

It came through on December 12. Once I was fairly sure I wasn't going past the finalist stage, I emailed to ask where it was. It came within a week of that.

[Anonymous User]

Anybody get their reimbursement yet?

Mine hit my bank account on 11/22.

[Anonymous User]

Got an official rejection today from Civil, was a finalist. Yay for moving on and no angst about working for the new administration.

[Anonymous User]

Got an official rejection today from Civil, was a finalist. Yay for moving on and no angst about working for the new administration.

I feel you there, same here with ATR.

[Anonymous User]

Any SLIP finalists still waiting to hear? Or can we assume by now all the offers have been made?

[Anonymous User]

Thoughts on the hiring freeze? I know the OMB guidance released stated that the agencies should determine whether or not job offers should be revoked; I am in a particularly ideologically-driven component so I worry. That being said, I even wonder about components like ATR (civil) that will likely be seeing less litigation.

[rockosmodernlife]

Any SLIP finalists still waiting to hear? Or can we assume by now all the offers have been made?

I think most offers went out in November. That's when I got mine at least.

[Anonymous User]

Are there any current DOJ attorneys, especially those who entered through the Honors program, on TLS? I'd really like to hear about what your day-to-day was like in terms of the workload, travel scheduled, the type of training you received, and even shallow things like whether or not your had your own office.

[Anonymous User]

Are there any current DOJ attorneys, especially those who entered through the Honors program, on TLS? I'd really like to hear about what your day-to-day was like in terms of the workload, travel scheduled, the type of training you received, and even shallow things like whether or not your had your own office.

I suspect you're going to have to be more specific about what part of DOJ; these things can vary a lot depending on what component/agency you work for. For myself, I'm an AUSA and the workload is very heavy at times (but probably not biglaw levels), I travel rarely, I've had great training both in the sense of formal courses/in-office training sessions and one on one help from colleagues, and I have my own office.

[Anonymous User]

Are there any current DOJ attorneys, especially those who entered through the Honors program, on TLS? I'd really like to hear about what your day-to-day was like in terms of the workload, travel scheduled, the type of training you received, and even shallow things like whether or not your had your own office.

I suspect you're going to have to be more specific about what part of DOJ; these things can vary a lot depending on what component/agency you work for. For myself, I'm an AUSA and the workload is very heavy at times (but probably not biglaw levels), I travel rarely, I've had great training both in the sense of formal courses/in-office training sessions and one on one help from colleagues, and I have my own office.

Thanks for the response. I meant to specify that I was specifically wondering about positions at main justice in litigating divisions. I would like to potentially go to a USAO down the road though, so your info is much appreciated!

[Nebby]

Are there any current DOJ attorneys, especially those who entered through the Honors program, on TLS? I'd really like to hear about what your day-to-day was like in terms of the workload, travel scheduled, the type of training you received, and even shallow things like whether or not your had your own office.

I suspect you're going to have to be more specific about what part of DOJ; these things can vary a lot depending on what component/agency you work for. For myself, I'm an AUSA and the workload is very heavy at times (but probably not biglaw levels), I travel rarely, I've had great training both in the sense of formal courses/in-office training sessions and one on one help from colleagues, and I have my own office.

Thanks for the response. I meant to specify that I was specifically wondering about positions at main justice in litigating divisions. I would like to potentially go to a USAO down the road though, so your info is much appreciated!

When you say "main justice" do you just mean DOJ's various division headquarters? "Main justice" typically is in reference to the administrative and policy offices within the main justice building, but the majority of the litigation takes places in its litigation divisions (criminal, civil rights, etc.) and those are (mostly) not within the main justice building.

[Anonymous User]

Are there any current DOJ attorneys, especially those who entered through the Honors program, on TLS? I'd really like to hear about what your day-to-day was like in terms of the workload, travel scheduled, the type of training you received, and even shallow things like whether or not your had your own office.

I suspect you're going to have to be more specific about what part of DOJ; these things can vary a lot depending on what component/agency you work for. For myself, I'm an AUSA and the workload is very heavy at times (but probably not biglaw levels), I travel rarely, I've had great training both in the sense of formal courses/in-office training sessions and one on one help from colleagues, and I have my own office.

Thanks for the response. I meant to specify that I was specifically wondering about positions at main justice in litigating divisions. I would like to potentially go to a USAO down the road though, so your info is much appreciated!

When you say "main justice" do you just mean DOJ's various division headquarters? "Main justice" typically is in reference to the administrative and policy offices within the main justice building, but the majority of the litigation takes places in its litigation divisions (criminal, civil rights, etc.) and those are (mostly) not within the main justice building.

I'm referring to main justice as DOJ in DC, including all of the litigation divisions because those are what I'm interested in hearing about. Sorry for the confusion.

[ScratchableItch]

Are there any current DOJ attorneys, especially those who entered through the Honors program, on TLS? I'd really like to hear about what your day-to-day was like in terms of the workload, travel scheduled, the type of training you received, and even shallow things like whether or not your had your own office.

I suspect you're going to have to be more specific about what part of DOJ; these things can vary a lot depending on what component/agency you work for. For myself, I'm an AUSA and the workload is very heavy at times (but probably not biglaw levels), I travel rarely, I've had great training both in the sense of formal courses/in-office training sessions and one on one help from colleagues, and I have my own office.

Thanks for the response. I meant to specify that I was specifically wondering about positions at main justice in litigating divisions. I would like to potentially go to a USAO down the road though, so your info is much appreciated!

When you say "main justice" do you just mean DOJ's various division headquarters? "Main justice" typically is in reference to the administrative and policy offices within the main justice building, but the majority of the litigation takes places in its litigation divisions (criminal, civil rights, etc.) and those are (mostly) not within the main justice building.

Really? Whenever I've heard it discussed, "main justice" has generally meant all of the DOJ components in DC aside from the DC USA office. Whether or not they're in a certain building, I've always taken "main justice" to include criminal, civil rights, etc as well as the administrative and policy offices in DC.

[Nebby]

Really? Whenever I've heard it discussed, "main justice" has generally meant all of the DOJ components in DC aside from the DC USA office. Whether or not they're in a certain building, I've always taken "main justice" to include criminal, civil rights, etc as well as the administrative and policy offices in DC.

Yes, really. If you ever discuss DOJ with an current or former DOJ attorney, they're going to think "main justice" as either the front office or at least the offices within the main building. Using "main justice" in the broad sense to a DOJ attorney would be like asking a law firm transactional attorney about "corporate law." Their thought would be "what kind of corporate law? cap markets, m&a, securities, etc."

[Anonymous User]

Really? Whenever I've heard it discussed, "main justice" has generally meant all of the DOJ components in DC aside from the DC USA office. Whether or not they're in a certain building, I've always taken "main justice" to include criminal, civil rights, etc as well as the administrative and policy offices in DC.

Yes, really. If you ever discuss DOJ with an current or former DOJ attorney, they're going to think "main justice" as either the front office or at least the offices within the main building. Using "main justice" in the broad sense to a DOJ attorney would be like asking a law firm transactional attorney about "corporate law." Their thought would be "what kind of corporate law? cap markets, m&a, securities, etc."

Nomenclature aside, what's your experience been like at DOJ? I'm just trying to stay on track.

[grand inquisitor]

i came to a litigating component of civil in 2015 through honors. it has been pretty ideal. i generally do 40 hour weeks except for small crunches around hearings or for other reasons. the training, both internal in d.c. and at doj's training center, has been great. i've generally travelled about once every 1.5 months for cases. you can pm me if you have more specific questions.