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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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OP has what would be, if GPAs were calculated, a 3.25. That's slightly below the median, actually, on a 3.3 scale -- which is what Penn essentially uses -- they just don't publish it. Actually, they use there own numerical system, but it works out near identically math-wise.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Anonymous User wrote:Do they just use an LSAC type scale and plug everything in?
A = 4.0
A- = 3.7
B+ = 3.3
B = 3.0
and so on?
Is this grading scale somewhat accurate for Penn? Is 3.3 median?
Yes.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Median is between B+B+B+B+ B+B+B+B+ and B+B+B+B+ B+B+B+B OP has the equivalent of A-B+B+B+ B+B+B+B+
I didn't know 3Ls served as Dean of Registrar.
Will you please unquote that brah.
Don't take requests from unnecessary anons. Also you are worng anyway so no point to unquote it. Plus they don't know who you are.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Anonymous User wrote: Is this grading scale somewhat accurate for Penn? Is 3.3 median?
Yes no

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Anonymous User wrote:OP has what would be, if GPAs were calculated, a 3.25. That's slightly below the median, actually, on a 3.3 scale -- which is what Penn essentially uses -- they just don't publish it. Actually, they use there own numerical system, but it works out near identically math-wise.
You also don't know. Stop posting.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Median is between B+B+B+B+ B+B+B+B+ and B+B+B+B+ B+B+B+B OP has the equivalent of A-B+B+B+ B+B+B+B+
I didn't know 3Ls served as Dean of Registrar.
That's not what the OP has, and short of GC actually coming on here and disclosing the grading system, 3Ls are as good as it gets.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:09 am

Anonymous User wrote: 3Ls are as good as it gets.
Why?

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:09 am

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Will you please unquote that brah.[/quote]

Don't take requests from unnecessary anons. Also you are worng anyway so no point to unquote it. Plus they don't know who you are.

Like I said supra . . .[/quote]

Look, I'm not the guy you were arguing with man. But thats kind a douche move.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:10 am

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Look, I'm not the guy you were arguing with man. But thats kind a douche move.
Much less than saying this anon.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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r6_philly wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OP has what would be, if GPAs were calculated, a 3.25. That's slightly below the median, actually, on a 3.3 scale -- which is what Penn essentially uses -- they just don't publish it. Actually, they use there own numerical system, but it works out near identically math-wise.
You also don't know. Stop posting.
I know that on a B+ curve, the OP, with credit hour differentials included, has grades that average out to slightly lower than a B+.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Look, I'm not the guy you were arguing with man. But thats kind a douche move.
Much less than arguing about GPA anon.
People argue about GPA anon because this is the uber secret of Penn and no one wants to get outed to their sources.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Anonymous User wrote: 3Ls are as good as it gets.
Why?
Because the administration doesn't come on TLS.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:13 am

Anonymous User wrote: I know that on a B+ curve, the OP, with credit hour differentials included, has grades that average out to slightly lower than a B+.
But it's not a "B+ curve." There is a curve guideline but it's not followed strictly in every class in every section because A+ and C are discretionary, and people don't get the same grade in every class, class distribution does not follow per class distribution, even aggregated, precisely.
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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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Anonymous User wrote: 3Ls are as good as it gets.
Why?
Because the administration doesn't come on TLS.
But why are 3Ls more credible than 2Ls? Upper classes are not curved the same way, we all have the same 1L classes, I don't see how 3Ls are anymore credible.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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r6_philly wrote:
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Look, I'm not the guy you were arguing with man. But thats kind a douche move.
Much less than arguing about GPA anon.
People argue about GPA anon because this is the uber secret of Penn and no one wants to get outed to their sources.
I just don't want people to know that I go to Penn, because that would, combined with my prior posts, likely out me. I have relevant information so I decided to post it. I'm not sure why it's so controversial. I know, from experience, that Penn curves to a B+, I've looked at the grade distributions and confirmed that professors all curve to a B+ for 1L classes, and I've calculated OP's weighted GPA and noted that it comes to less than a B+ average.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:16 am

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r6_philly wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: 3Ls are as good as it gets.
Why?
Because the administration doesn't come on TLS.
But why are 3Ls more credible than 2Ls? Upper classes are not curved the same way, we all have the same 1L classes, I don't see how 3Ls are anymore credible.
We aren't, necessarily. I just said that 3Ls are as good as it gets (on TLS), not that 2Ls can't also be as good as it gets provided they have knowledge of Penn's grading system. As I said prior, this isn't rocket science here. We're calculating that OP is no higher than median on a B+ curve -- they have a B- and a B in four credit courses for chrisakes.
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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by Pate » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:16 am

Speaking of A+, has anyone here received an A+, or a grade lower than a B? Curious.
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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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I just don't want people to know that I go to Penn, because that would, combined with my prior posts, likely out me. I have relevant information so I decided to post it. I'm not sure why it's so controversial. I know, from experience, that Penn curves to a B+, I've looked at the grade distributions and confirmed that professors all curve to a B+ for 1L classes, and I've calculated OP's weighted GPA and noted that it comes to less than a B+ average.
But grade distribution does not work that way. It works that way per individual class, but not for the entire 1L class. There are too many moving parts because people don't perform the same across all classes (read above). That's why the median region is packed and there is regression to the mean.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:17 am

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We aren't, necessarily. I just said that 3Ls are as good as it gets (on TLS), not that 2Ls can't also be as good as it gets provided they have knowledge of Penn's grading system.
But most of these "knowledge" are not correct.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:18 am

Pate wrote:Speaking of A+, has anyone here received an A+, or a grade lower than a B? Curious.
They give out A+ and C, yes. Not every class. And when they give out, not necessarily just one or two.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

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I just don't want people to know that I go to Penn, because that would, combined with my prior posts, likely out me. I have relevant information so I decided to post it. I'm not sure why it's so controversial. I know, from experience, that Penn curves to a B+, I've looked at the grade distributions and confirmed that professors all curve to a B+ for 1L classes, and I've calculated OP's weighted GPA and noted that it comes to less than a B+ average.
But grade distribution does not work that way. It works that way per individual class, but not for the entire 1L class. There are too many moving parts because people don't perform the same across all classes (read above). That's why the median region is packed and there is regression to the mean.
If it works that way for every 1L class (it does), then it works that way for the entire 1L class.

Actually, electives are graded I believe a bit higher than the standard curve, which moves it slightly higher than a B+ -- further lending to the fact OP is median/below median.
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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:20 am

Anonymous User wrote:We're calculating that OP is no higher than median on a B+ curve -- they have a B- and a B in four credit courses for chrisakes.
The "B+" curve is an approximation, so I don't want someone to come up here and say definitively, "yes XXX is above/below" the median, because that statement may be off like 15 percentage points depending on what the real median.

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Re: Where do I stand at Penn?

Post by r6_philly » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:20 am

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If it works that way for every 1L class (it does), then it works that way for the entire 1L class.
I take it you don't understand distribution.

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