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squee116 wrote:I just started the negotiation process, and after sending a "cost is important; merit based aid will make a difference" email, the college asked for a request and the other offers.

Am I over-thinking things in believing that request means naming a specific number? Or should I just forward my other offers?

It sounds like they want to know what you think you should get, and see your other offers. I don't see why that's confusing. They're trying to bait you into telling them what the lowest amount you'll take is, probably.

Is there a list of school's who won't negotiate? I know that Yale, Harvard, Stanford obviously won't because they don't offer merit aid I also know Vanderbilt doesn't negotiate either. Are their any others that people know of?

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kimkardashian wrote:When negotiating, is it useless to bring up waitlisted schools? I'm negotiating for additional merit scholarships from schools ranked 20, 24, 27, 36, and 38 but I got waitlisted to four T-14s. I also got full scholarships to two schools ranked 58 and 86.

The consensus is that it is useless, yes.

PrideandGlory1776 wrote:Is there a list of school's who won't negotiate? I know that Yale, Harvard, Stanford obviously won't because they don't offer merit aid I also know Vanderbilt doesn't negotiate either. Are their any others that people know of?

Believe it or not, Santa Clara law refuses to negotiate as well.

PrideandGlory1776 wrote:Is there a list of school's who won't negotiate? I know that Yale, Harvard, Stanford obviously won't because they don't offer merit aid I also know Vanderbilt doesn't negotiate either. Are their any others that people know of?

UNC doesn't negotiate.

Moonlight wrote:

PrideandGlory1776 wrote:Is there a list of school's who won't negotiate? I know that Yale, Harvard, Stanford obviously won't because they don't offer merit aid I also know Vanderbilt doesn't negotiate either. Are their any others that people know of?

Believe it or not, Santa Clara law refuses to negotiate as well.

Strangely enough, USF wouldn't budge with me either. It's just first round, though. They may change their mind.

Dingo Starr wrote:

Moonlight wrote:

PrideandGlory1776 wrote:Is there a list of school's who won't negotiate? I know that Yale, Harvard, Stanford obviously won't because they don't offer merit aid I also know Vanderbilt doesn't negotiate either. Are their any others that people know of?

Believe it or not, Santa Clara law refuses to negotiate as well.

Strangely enough, USF wouldn't budge with me either. It's just first round, though. They may change their mind.

Really? What did they say? You can PM me if that's better for you.

Just heard back from SMU. They just asked if I got my scholly offer in the admission packet, rather than assuming I'm trying to negotiate. Is there a proper way to phrase this without just saying "Yes, I got the scholarship info, but I want MOAR!"

I do have a rough draft, and was curious if it sounded too money grubby.

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kimkardashian wrote:

Brettanomyces wrote:

kimkardashian wrote:When negotiating, is it useless to bring up waitlisted schools? I'm negotiating for additional merit scholarships from schools ranked 20, 24, 27, 36, and 38 but I got waitlisted to four T-14s. I also got full scholarships to two schools ranked 58 and 86.

The consensus is that it is useless, yes.

Thanks for the response. Should I mention the full scholarships to the lower-ranked (58 and 86) schools when negotiating with the rest of them?

I would mention the full scholarships to lower ranked schools. It can only work to your advantage. If they believe that you may take the money and run, they may offer more. On the other hand, if you don't mention it, it gives a less compelling reason for them to negotiate.

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Do the new UNSW rankings matter (i.e., in comparison to last year's rankings) for scholarship negotiations?

Just heard back from IUB and SMU. No negotiating going on.

Might be a really small detail, but I'm wondering what people put in their subject line for the email that goes to admissions first (the email about asking who we can get in contact with to try and negotiate more money).

Bajam wrote:Might be a really small detail, but I'm wondering what people put in their subject line for the email that goes to admissions first (the email about asking who we can get in contact with to try and negotiate more money).

By no means am I an expert, but I just put "(Your name) Financial Aid" and it generally was met with a quick response.

Bajam wrote:Might be a really small detail, but I'm wondering what people put in their subject line for the email that goes to admissions first (the email about asking who we can get in contact with to try and negotiate more money).

I wouldn't even send that email. Go to the faculty page and find the right person (Director/Dean of Financial Aid/Admissions). Or you can look back at who signed your initial scholarship letter if there is one. I emailed the Dean of Admissions and the Director of Financial Services responded with a scholarship increase. It's down to the wire so just go for it. They know how to forward an email to the right person.

But as for your top inquiry, I just labeled mine "'Full name of Law School' Financing Request"

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I applied late in the game, so I've received a few offers but am waiting to hear back from most of the schools I applied to. How long should I wait on the other schools before starting the negotiation process?

beforethelaw wrote:I applied late in the game, so I've received a few offers but am waiting to hear back from most of the schools I applied to. How long should I wait on the other schools before starting the negotiation process?

You should go ahead and get the initial negotiation email out, if you have competitive offers between schools and can make an argument. You can always add or supplement your negotiations with new scholly offers when they come in.

Any stats out there on asking for more merit after 1L (providing in top of class) , to prevent a transfer out?
Obviously not talking about T14s here.

nickles96 wrote:Any stats out there on asking for more merit after 1L (providing in top of class) , to prevent a transfer out?
Obviously not talking about T14s here.

Same question, but talking about t14's - I read an anecdotal thing about someone doing this at Northwestern successfully. Anyone know at Columbia or other top schools?

I made an ultimatum in my scholarship reconsideration form that I'm worried is going to come across as entitled. Am I out of luck and should wait till they respond, or should I send a follow-up email?