For obvious reasons I'm not going to disclosed the name of my firm, just as I wouldn't ask you to disclose your real name. But perhaps you wouldn't mind pm-ing your real name, just in case your resume ever come across my desk.Sheffield wrote:Not a tough question... again, what is the name of your firm?silenttimer wrote:I'm at a v-50 firm, and I'm typically on the interview committee for lateral candidates, as well as summer associates. If I ever see "Esq." on the person's resume, I would think the person is douchy. We know you are a lawyer, that's why we're giving you an interview. No need to use "Esq." -- just as lawyers typically do not use "Esq." when filing court papers. I also think it's extremely douchy to use latin phrases in legal writing when the equivalent english phrase would convey the same meaning.Sheffield wrote:And the name of your firm is what again? Yeah, right.silenttimer wrote: I'm a practicing attorney, and I think it's extremely douchy.
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I'm also at a vault ranked firm and I can confirm, no one does this in practice. People know you're a lawyer when your letter comes on the firm letterhead. People know you have a legal resume because, ya know, it says you graduated from a law school and are a member of XYZ bars.silenttimer wrote:[I'm at a v-50 firm, and I'm typically on the interview committee for lateral candidates, as well as summer associates. If I ever see "Esq." on the person's resume, I would think the person is douchy. We know you are a lawyer, that's why we're giving you an interview. No need to use "Esq." -- just as lawyers typically do not use "Esq." when filing court papers. I also think it's extremely douchy to use latin phrases in legal writing when the equivalent english phrase would convey the same meaning.
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Oh yeah, you might want to correct all your typos…. you being at a V-50 and all.silenttimer wrote: For obvious reasons this being a giant flame I'm not going to disclosed the name of my firm, just as I wouldn't ask you to disclose your real name. But perhaps you wouldn't mind pm-ing your real name, just in case your resume ever come across my desk located in a tiny room in my trailer.
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Yes, you're the type that should write "Esq." after your name.Sheffield wrote:Oh yeah, you might want to correct all your typos…. you being at a V-50 and all.
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Don't phrases like Counsel for the [Party] and [State] Bar No. also serve this function?reverendt wrote:If you don't have "Esq." after your name on pleading a judge will probably wonder if you have any business signing the pleading. It clears things up and explains who you are in relation to the matter in tree simple letters.
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My uncle says it's stupid. His friends, jokingly, refer to him as esquire, but I've never known him to sign anything with it. I thought that was the rule: others can refer to a person as esquire, but one should never sign or refer to himself as esquire?
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What is this, giant pretend to work at a nameless V50 flame day?exitoptions wrote:Yes, you're the type that should write "Esq." after your name.Sheffield wrote:Oh yeah, you might want to correct all your typos…. you being at a V-50 and all.
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Sure they do.DocHawkeye wrote:Don't phrases like Counsel for the [Party] and [State] Bar No. also serve this function?reverendt wrote:If you don't have "Esq." after your name on pleading a judge will probably wonder if you have any business signing the pleading. It clears things up and explains who you are in relation to the matter in tree simple letters.
I dunno.....I just randomly pulled up a bunch of cases from my county's online court docket. Every complaint or answer that I saw was signed: "[attorney name], Esq." (or Esquire).
Every correspondance I get from an attorney (and I get alot, from many different attornys) is signed "[attorney name], Esq.
The folks here who claim that's "douchy"....I don't know what planet they practice on, but in Pennsylvania, attorneys sign their name with Esquire.
Understand, I'm not talking about the actual, handwritten signature. I'm talking about the printed name under the signature.
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You out your name and school and then I'll tell you the name of my firm. And then I'll see what I can do about getting you a job in Biglaw. Promise.Sheffield wrote:What is this, giant pretend to work at a nameless V50 flame day?
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It's probably regional. Where I am (not Pennsylvania, nowhere near Pennsylvania), attorneys don't do this.reverendt wrote:Sure they do.DocHawkeye wrote:Don't phrases like Counsel for the [Party] and [State] Bar No. also serve this function?reverendt wrote:If you don't have "Esq." after your name on pleading a judge will probably wonder if you have any business signing the pleading. It clears things up and explains who you are in relation to the matter in tree simple letters.
I dunno.....I just randomly pulled up a bunch of cases from my county's online court docket. Every complaint or answer that I saw was signed: "[attorney name], Esq." (or Esquire).
Every correspondance I get from an attorney (and I get alot, from many different attornys) is signed "[attorney name], Esq.
The folks here who claim that's "douchy"....I don't know what planet they practice on, but in Pennsylvania, attorneys sign their name with Esquire.
Understand, I'm not talking about the actual, handwritten signature. I'm talking about the printed name under the signature.
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I would just ignore him, this kid has a history of being a major troll.exitoptions wrote:You out your name and school and then I'll tell you the name of my firm. And then I'll see what I can do about getting you a job in Biglaw. Promise.Sheffield wrote:What is this, giant pretend to work at a nameless V50 flame day?
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+100%. You nailed it, that’s the way it works. The flamers who claim otherwise have never stepped into a law school and couldn’t find a law firm with a GPS.reverendt wrote:Sure they do.DocHawkeye wrote:Don't phrases like Counsel for the [Party] and [State] Bar No. also serve this function?reverendt wrote:If you don't have "Esq." after your name on pleading a judge will probably wonder if you have any business signing the pleading. It clears things up and explains who you are in relation to the matter in tree simple letters.
I dunno.....I just randomly pulled up a bunch of cases from my county's online court docket. Every complaint or answer that I saw was signed: "[attorney name], Esq." (or Esquire).
Every correspondance I get from an attorney (and I get alot, from many different attornys) is signed "[attorney name], Esq.
The folks here who claim that's "douchy"....I don't know what planet they practice on, but in Pennsylvania, attorneys sign their name with Esquire.
Understand, I'm not talking about the actual, handwritten signature. I'm talking about the printed name under the signature.
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The above poster may be right that it might be regional, but in any event, I can't find many "Esq." here: http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/reverendt wrote:Sure they do.DocHawkeye wrote:Don't phrases like Counsel for the [Party] and [State] Bar No. also serve this function?reverendt wrote:If you don't have "Esq." after your name on pleading a judge will probably wonder if you have any business signing the pleading. It clears things up and explains who you are in relation to the matter in tree simple letters.
I dunno.....I just randomly pulled up a bunch of cases from my county's online court docket. Every complaint or answer that I saw was signed: "[attorney name], Esq." (or Esquire).
Every correspondance I get from an attorney (and I get alot, from many different attornys) is signed "[attorney name], Esq.
The folks here who claim that's "douchy"....I don't know what planet they practice on, but in Pennsylvania, attorneys sign their name with Esquire.
Understand, I'm not talking about the actual, handwritten signature. I'm talking about the printed name under the signature.
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Except in my district, where no one uses Esq.Sheffield wrote:+100%. You nailed it, that’s the way it works.
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Well I think we have an answer. It must be regional.
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Some regions are douchy?reverendt wrote:Well I think we have an answer. It must be regional.
I do recall looking at some Pennsylvania cases and they use a lot of that old lawyery language (e.g. "Comes now ...")
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Seriously, you are using the net?? What, Radio Shack didn’t bundle LexisNexis with your keyboard.silenttimer wrote:The above poster may be right that it might be regional, but in any event, I can't find many "Esq." here: http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/
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Just so you know, when you troll people you're supposed to try to be funny. Statements like this just make you sound like an idiot.Sheffield wrote:Seriously, you are using the net?? What, Radio Shack didn’t bundle LexisNexis with your keyboard.silenttimer wrote:The above poster may be right that it might be regional, but in any event, I can't find many "Esq." here: http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/
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I thought it was humorous enough that you are pretending to somehow be connected to the legal field. Since you have no clue about LexisNexus… you and your flame clown friend silenttimer are busted.exitoptions wrote: Just so you know, when you troll people you're supposed to try to be funny. Statements like this just make you sound like an idiot.
The good news is that you are both now on ignore... feel free to go back to your pretend law firm.
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This is true. Of course, having only practiced in PA, I wasn't other that other places DON'T use that language.exitoptions wrote:Some regions are douchy?reverendt wrote:Well I think we have an answer. It must be regional.
I do recall looking at some Pennsylvania cases and they use a lot of that old lawyery language (e.g. "Comes now ...")
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I’d personally cool it with Linkedin and resumes, but once hired, it is 100% okay and probably expected.mrman17 wrote:I am just wondering when I should add it to my name on my resume, Linkedin page, etc. I may not want to practice law after I graduate, but I would still like to use the title if possible. Either way, I am still planning on taking the bar in July.
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