LSAT Help With Grades?

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LSAT Help With Grades?

Postby DerKatze » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:49 am

I'll be a sophomore next year (currently a freshman) at a top 25 university. I major in philosophy. I know I want to law school. From what I can understand, the reputable advice is that I should study and get the best grades possible, and not worry about the LSAT for at least 1.5 more years. Seeing as the LSAT is more of a skills based test, one particularly relevant to my major, would it be helpful at all to study for the LSAT over the summer? I don't mean the 8 hours of daily prep people do right before the test--just an hour a day at most--and it won't get in the way of my grades or experiences I find fun. If studying for the LSAT entails improving logical thinking and reading comprehension, then it seems like doing those things would also make it easier for me to do well on tests, essays, etc., improving my expected GPA. Is this a bad idea?

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Re: LSAT Help With Grades?

Postby totesTheGoat » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:41 am

Here's my honest advice. Make your BA degree more marketable and go work a real job for 2 years before going to law school. You'll be a better lawyer if you do that. Do what it takes to get a decent job out of undergrad, whether that means double majoring, minoring in computer science, or whatever else will get you some decent chances at an internship the next 2 summers. Then, spend 2 or 3 years working at your decent job, all the while saving up a bit of cash for law school and studying for the LSAT. Then, once the financial numbers make sense for you to go to law school, you'll be approaching it from a position of strength, not from desperation.

So many people follow the path you're currently on and get absolutely hosed. Either they can't get their LSAT score up quickly enough or they just can't take working for $10/hr at the local coffee shop anymore, and they make law school decisions out of desperation. Put yourself in a position where you can make a smart decision about when to go to law school. Also, put yourself in a position to stick out among your peers. You don't want to be 1 of 50 K-JDs at OCI with a humanities undergrad, practically no work experience, and the same 5 law school activities. Those aren't the students who have their pick of jobs. Graduating law school at 27 instead of 25 isn't the end of the world, trust me.

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Re: LSAT Help With Grades?

Postby DerKatze » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:48 am

I don't think you understood my question, because your answer was completely irrelevant to it. Working for 2 years after law school will do nothing to change the fact that grades matter in law school admissions. My question was essentially about getting better grades. I wasn't asking if I should study now to get a high LSAT score, I was asking whether the skills developed by studying for the LSAT are transferable enough to classes to make it worth doing.

As for marketable degrees, the issue is moot for several other reasons. One of which is I do currently have work experience--I'm an Enrolled Agent for a couple different small businesses, and I've been doing that since last summer. I plan to continue that while I'm still in college.

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Re: LSAT Help With Grades?

Postby totesTheGoat » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:26 am

I don't think you understood my question, because your answer was completely irrelevant to it. Working for 2 years after law school will do nothing to change the fact that grades matter in law school admissions. My question was essentially about getting better grades.


*sigh* Okay, go study for the LSAT as a friggin' freshman in college. That's definitely not a waste of time and effort and certainly doesn't show that you're laser locked in on a very expensive and very risky path forward. :roll:

Dude, the LSAT is a flippin' entrance exam. Did you study for the ACT for 4 years in order to do better in Algebra class in high school??

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Re: LSAT Help With Grades?

Postby DerKatze » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:23 pm

totesTheGoat wrote:Did you study for the ACT for 4 years in order to do better in Algebra class in high school??


Point taken. I didn't study at all for the SAT and I scored 99th percentile, but that's because it is content based, not skill based. If the skills required for the LSAT are logical thinking and reading, doing both of those better is certainly worth improving. But I take it you're implying there are better ways to improve these skills, i.e. spending more time doing the work for my classes, rather than trying to do the work beforehand.

Your other advice is great advice for the average student, I'm just not an average student.

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Re: LSAT Help With Grades?

Postby BeeTeeZ » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:03 pm

DerKatze wrote:
totesTheGoat wrote:Did you study for the ACT for 4 years in order to do better in Algebra class in high school??


Point taken. I didn't study at all for the SAT and I scored 99th percentile, but that's because it is content based, not skill based. If the skills required for the LSAT are logical thinking and reading, doing both of those better is certainly worth improving. But I take it you're implying there are better ways to improve these skills, i.e. spending more time doing the work for my classes, rather than trying to do the work beforehand.

Your other advice is great advice for the average student, I'm just not an average student.


Undergraduate classes are also content based, regardless of major. Studying for and mastering the LSAT will provide no value to you in terms of undergraduate performance.



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