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Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:25 am
by Katyusha
Hi folks.
I'm in the fall 2018 circle and now reading admission statistics online. I find that each year, there are some people with above-median/above 75% GPA and LSAT rejected or waitlisted by schools. For example, there was a guy with a 3.9 GPA and 179 LSAT rejected by Harvard last year. I'm wondering how did it happen? And how can I avoid this outcome?
Thank you so much.

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:47 am
by snowball2
Possibly because there are only so many spots and the better schools draw the most applicants with top qualifications?

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:42 am
by LieutenantElmo
Katyusha,

The numbers are not totally indicative of the sitatuation. Perhaps they had several C&F problems (multiple DUIs, felony charges, etc.) or perhaps they had little experience in their resume or personal statement. There is a long list of possibilities that range from botched interviews to rude emails and phone calls. Don't do these and you'll most likely be fine.

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:23 pm
by DebtPrisoner
or becus they cant right

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:30 pm
by minnbills
It's called yield protecting. One factor in a law school's ranking is how many admitted applicants matriculate to the school. The higher that percentage, the more it helps the school's ranking.

So, if you're a 4.0 with a 175, and you apply to a school like BU or BC, the adcomms at those schools will know that you are certain to get admissions offers at higher ranked law schools, and may reject you to protect their yield %.

hope that helps

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:08 pm
by albanach
minnbills wrote:It's called yield protecting. One factor in a law school's ranking is how many admitted applicants matriculate to the school. The higher that percentage, the more it helps the school's ranking.

So, if you're a 4.0 with a 175, and you apply to a school like BU or BC, the adcomms at those schools will know that you are certain to get admissions offers at higher ranked law schools, and may reject you to protect their yield %.

hope that helps


This is also why if you have a school you really like, a well written "Why X" essay offers value. If adcomms truly believe you're interested in the school and aren't just going to attend the highest ranked school, you're more likely to get an offer.

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:32 pm
by Katyusha
Thank you so much for all your replies above. They really help.
My concern is that my resume is kind of "weak." Most of my experiences are about research, teaching, and translation. I don't have law-related working experiences, nor did I ever work in a renowned company (I will graduate from college this summer and then work in Australia. My GPA is 3.90/3.91). Do you guys think this will have a negative impact on my admission? Thank you!

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:02 am
by albanach
Katyusha wrote:Thank you so much for all your replies above. They really help.
My concern is that my resume is kind of "weak." Most of my experiences are about research, teaching, and translation. I don't have law-related working experiences, nor did I ever work in a renowned company (I will graduate from college this summer and then work in Australia. My GPA is 3.90/3.91). Do you guys think this will have a negative impact on my admission? Thank you!


Half your class will be K-JD. No, it won't have a negative impact so long as you make yourself appear interesting. There's no need for, or expectation of, prior legal experience. Just portray yourself as someone that will contribute something to the class.

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:51 am
by BeeTeeZ
Race/gender equity also plays a role. Can't have too many men, whites/asians, etc.

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:25 am
by Heyy_Y'all
This literally just happened to me. #YieldPROTECTION Now I'm left trying to craft a LOCI without it sounding rude. Smh!

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:27 am
by Heyy_Y'all
minnbills wrote:It's called yield protecting. One factor in a law school's ranking is how many admitted applicants matriculate to the school. The higher that percentage, the more it helps the school's ranking.

So, if you're a 4.0 with a 175, and you apply to a school like BU or BC, the adcomms at those schools will know that you are certain to get admissions offers at higher ranked law schools, and may reject you to protect their yield %.

hope that helps


THIS!!!!

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:21 am
by Bla Bla Bla Blah
DebtPrisoner wrote:or becus they cant right


Haha, write on! And probably true. Some people don't know how to sell themselves very well through a well written PS and come off as douchebags. That ends up hurting their chances.

Re: Why are some people w/ above median GPA & LSAT rejected/wait-listed?

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:11 pm
by Yulifus
Several factors, such as questionable C & F, diversity, poorly written personal statement, less than impressive resume, no extracurricular activities.