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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:31 pm
by Future Ex-Engineer
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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:51 pm
by rictheruler
doggozeg wrote:rictheruler wrote:If a school's median GPA went down, is it safe to say that the 25 and 75 probably went down as well? Or could it just mean the numbers are clustered differently?
It seems like the 25/75 would drop too (as with past experience), but I agree that it could just mean a tighter distribution. Unfortunately, median is not affected at all by distribution. Some schools seem to have long tails on the 25th percentiles because once they can hit their desired median, the half under the median can be anything and not affect the median. I don't think we will know the trend until a few schools put out numbers.
I see, thanks. Also, how useful are these numbers in determining your chances for next cycle? It seems like they could be good guideposts as to roughly where one stands, but the numbers will of course change next year. For example, if my GPA was .01 below a school's median for last cycle, I could easily be above median for next cycle. Is it just a given that schools try to hit the same numbers they did last year?
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:08 pm
by doggozeg
rictheruler wrote:doggozeg wrote:rictheruler wrote:If a school's median GPA went down, is it safe to say that the 25 and 75 probably went down as well? Or could it just mean the numbers are clustered differently?
It seems like the 25/75 would drop too (as with past experience), but I agree that it could just mean a tighter distribution. Unfortunately, median is not affected at all by distribution. Some schools seem to have long tails on the 25th percentiles because once they can hit their desired median, the half under the median can be anything and not affect the median. I don't think we will know the trend until a few schools put out numbers.
I see, thanks. Also, how useful are these numbers in determining your chances for next cycle? It seems like they could be good guideposts as to roughly where one stands, but the numbers will of course change next year. For example, if my GPA was .01 below a school's median for last cycle, I could easily be above median for next cycle. Is it just a given that schools try to hit the same numbers they did last year?
So I am not entirely sure of the answer, but I think I agree that you can go off of the prior year (so class of 2020) numbers as a reasonable guide.
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:58 pm
by Huskies13!
GMU (ASSLAW):
Medians only
162 (0)
3.70 (+.04)
176 Ils (-3)
https://www.law.gmu.edu/news/2017/class_profile_2017
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:19 pm
by #1Gunner
Penn Sate-Dickinson capped at their 75 student max this year
They didn't mention their medians today - tomorrow is Day 2 of orientation, though
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:04 pm
by OakBrook2021
saving this for reference
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:20 pm
by Huskies13!
Georgia is "up" but no LSAT or GPA only class size.
193 (+15)
http://www.law.uga.edu/class-profile
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:15 pm
by Huskies13!
Duke:
https://law.duke.edu/admis/classprofile/
166(-1)/169(0)/170(0)
3.57(-.02)/3.75(-.01)/3.84(0)
214(-7)
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:24 pm
by kingpin101
Quite the drop in applicants
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:29 pm
by sparkytrainer
Good news Duke held serve because not all t13s will be able to.
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:33 pm
by Huskies13!
UCLA:
163(0)/167(0)/168(0)
3.54(+.05)/3.76(+.02)/3.86(-.02)
298(+8)
5,427 (+74)
https://law.ucla.edu/admissions/class-profile/
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:47 pm
by Huskies13!
New Mexico:
http://lawschool.unm.edu/admissions/about-students/
702 (+73)apps
120 (+8)enrolled
151(+1)/153(0)/156(-1)
3.15(-.05)/3.46(-.01)/3.70 (+.03)
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:05 pm
by ms9
MOAR!
(do you people still say it like that?)
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:18 pm
by principalagent
Everyone seems to be holding so far. When is the bottom going to fall out?
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:37 pm
by ms9
principalagent wrote:Everyone seems to be holding so far. When is the bottom going to fall out?
Over the many years I have been doing this and following this-- I have noted that school's that did not do as well seem to often release their scores later than this that did well.
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:41 pm
by Gitaroo_Dude
Aww yeah.
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:50 pm
by proteinshake
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:51 pm
by Huskies13!
Updating--news release says:
Class size is 189 (not 193) so (+11).
162 (0)
3.71 (-.02)
http://www.law.uga.edu/news/49099
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:42 pm
by pink_freud257
I don't believe it's public knowledge yet (though it will be soon), but William & Mary's medians are out via e-mail:
W&M:
4,036 (-207) applications
188 (-48) enrolled
157 (0)/163 (+1)/164 (0)
3.47 (-.02)/3.74 (-.01)/3.85 (-.03)
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:37 pm
by loslakers
USC announced their medians at orientation, no mention of 25th and 75th percentiles.
165 and 3.76, class size of 187
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:57 pm
by T25 JD 2020 hopeful
loslakers wrote:USC announced their medians at orientation, no mention of 25th and 75th percentiles.
165 and 3.76, class size of 187
Wow. They kept the exact same medians but lost 42 students!??
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:37 pm
by T25 JD 2020 hopeful
McGeorge/Pacific, whatever---TTT carnage!
http://www.mcgeorge.edu/Future_Students ... ms/FAQ.htm
148(-1)/151(-1)/154(-1)
2.89(-.04)/3.19(-.01)/3.4 (-.04)
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:28 pm
by loslakers
T25 JD 2020 hopeful wrote:loslakers wrote:USC announced their medians at orientation, no mention of 25th and 75th percentiles.
165 and 3.76, class size of 187
Wow. They kept the exact same medians but lost 42 students!??
tbh i was hoping that with the drop in students they'd be able to bring their median back to 166.
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:02 am
by Keilz
MikeSpivey wrote:principalagent wrote:Everyone seems to be holding so far. When is the bottom going to fall out?
Over the many years I have been doing this and following this-- I have noted that school's that did not do as well seem to often release their scores later than this that did well.
Do you think schools will see some smaller class sizes in an attempt to hold medians?
Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:24 pm
by Huskies13!
Stealing Spivey's thunder:
UF:
https://www.law.ufl.edu/admissions/appl ... ss-profile
Apps: 2884 (+181)
Class: 301 (-13)
155(-1)/161(+1)/163(+2)
3.37(+.04)/3.69(+.09)/3.81(+.04)