CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE) Forum

twiix · Post by **twiix** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:10 pm

vonrus1 wrote:
MrAdultman wrote:
doggozeg wrote:
Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Well, I hate to be the "Well, actually" guy, but...

Actually, the T3/T6/T14 grouping has less to do with a meaningful distinction in the "caliber" of the school and more to do with the fact that these 3/6/14 schools have been pretty consistently ranked in these bands over the past decade or so.

If you're letting the distinction between bands within the T14 determine what school you go to, you're doing it wrong.

Bingo!

School isn't like "5 is 3 better then 8 and "two worse than 3'"
but we can all agree that 14 > everybody else right???
Except that Georgetown sucks
UT, yo.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-sc ... w-rankings
Is UT actually considered to have better reach than Georgetown now, or is "Georgetown sucks" just a meme?

its easier to just group them together in the "sucks" category.

AJordan · Post by **AJordan** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:11 pm

I get the feeling that UT is considered stronger in its local market (Dallas/Houston inclusive) than Georgetown is in its own.

twiix · Post by **twiix** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:22 pm

AJordan wrote:I get the feeling that UT is considered stronger in its local market (Dallas/Houston inclusive) than Georgetown is in its own.

Yeah UT definitely has the dominance in the true south.

Ultimately they are pretty comparable.

https://www.lstreports.com/compare/texas/gulc/

UT has better fed clerk rates, GT sends more into Biglaw. Neither are really in the "sucks" category.

vonrus1 · Post by **vonrus1** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:59 pm

Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):

0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?

chargers21 · Post by **chargers21** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:03 pm

cavalier1138 · Post by **cavalier1138** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:53 pm

vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):

0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?

I mean, the fun thing about that hypo is that Georgetown doesn't give full rides. So unless you're gunning for a DC firm (and Georgetown still isn't great for that) or federal government, you're probably better off with UT in every circumstance.

rachelac · Post by **rachelac** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:54 pm

poptart123 · Post by **poptart123** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:00 pm

A choice between UT and GULC should be region/money dependent. Also, GULC has a similar percentage of graduates in BL+FC% but has more graduates overall. I doubt UT would be as strong with a class the size of GULC's.

carsondalywashere · Post by **carsondalywashere** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:26 pm

vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):

0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?

Gtown for dat lay prestige

ugatvandy · Post by **ugatvandy** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:54 pm

Veil of Ignorance wrote:The fact that Columbia maintained the exact same GPA spread, to the second decimal point, and NYU has exactly a 3.7/3.8/3.9 spread just shows that even in the T6 admissions is very engineered. Not that this is news.

Yo, I'm almost certain that NYU is not 3.7, 3.8, and 3.9 exactly. They post that on their website and they said that to their class, but if you do some digging and look at their 509 report, they really just add to the nearest tenth. It was 3.65, 3.81, 3.89 last year and they rounded it then to 3.7, 3.8. and 3.9.

I'm guessing they did the same thing this year

Jack_Kelly · Post by **Jack_Kelly** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:08 pm

vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):

0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?

GULC seems to give better geographic options and more chances at PI. I'd honestly probably struggle more with Georgetown vs Vandy just for location reasons.

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:57 pm

Medians!
Hastings:
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd/class-profile/
Apps: 3009 (-407)
Size: 326 (-22)
156(0)/159(0)/161(0)
3.15(-.03)/3.42(-.03)/3.60(-.04)

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:04 pm

Samford:
https://www.samford.edu/cumberlandlaw/by-the-numbers
LSAT: 151 (-1)
GPA: 3.36 (+.05)

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:07 pm

Willamette:
http://willamette.edu/law/about/class-p ... index.html
Size: 110 (+5)
148(0)/152(+1)/156(+1)
2.83(+.04)/3.18(0)/3.54(-.03)

Slippin' Jimmy · Post by **Slippin' Jimmy** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:23 pm

vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):

0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?

As much as I love the GeorgeTTTTown memes, I'd probably choose GULC. But as others have mentioned, this won't be an actual situation since GULC doesn't give full rides.

chargers21 · Post by **chargers21** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:46 pm

vonrus1 · Post by **vonrus1** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:00 pm

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):

0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
As much as I love the GeorgeTTTTown memes, I'd probably choose GULC. But as others have mentioned, this won't be an actual situation since GULC doesn't give full rides.

I was attempting to level the playing field by removing any financial concerns.

Motherfuckers pokin' holes in my experiment n shit.

CALaw717 · Post by **CALaw717** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:39 pm

Hastings
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd ... /index.php
LSAT: 156/159/161 (all unchanged)
GPA: 3.15(-0.03)/3.42(-0.02)/3.60(-0.03)
Class: 326 (-22)

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:55 pm

CALaw717 wrote:Hastings
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd ... /index.php
LSAT: 156/159/161 (all unchanged)
GPA: 3.15(-0.03)/3.42(-0.02)/3.60(-0.03)
Class: 326 (-22)

Dude...gotta be faster!

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:18 am

American:
https://www.wcl.american.edu/school/adm ... dmissions/
Apps: 4292 (-99)
Size: 418 (-45)
LSAT: 156 (0)
GPA: 3.41 (0)

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:30 pm

UNC:
http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/admiss ... t17-18.pdf
Apps: 1359 (-12)
Size: 213 (-1)
157(-1)/161(0)/163(0)
3.33(+.02)/3.56(+.05)/3.71(+.01)

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:38 pm

Albany:
http://www.albanylaw.edu/admissions/class-profile
Apps: 927 (-86)
Size: 150 (+4)
150(+1)/152(0)/155(+1)
2.81(-.20)/3.36(+.02)/3.56(+.01)

ugatvandy · Post by **ugatvandy** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:49 am

Does anyone know where the Boston University numbers came from? I (briefly) looked and didn't see them, but could have easily skipped over them.

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:42 pm

Lewis & Clark:
http://law.lclark.edu/offices/admission ... s_profile/
Size: 172 (-2)
3.12(+.07)/3.39(+.05)/3.61(+.01)
154/157/160(-1)

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:45 pm

Wayne State:
https://law.wayne.edu/jd/profile
Apps: 811 (+134)
Size: 147 (+8)
3.17(-.14)/3.43(-.01)/3.69(+.02)
153(+1)/157(0)/160(+1)

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