CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:31 pm

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby rictheruler » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:51 pm

doggozeg wrote:
rictheruler wrote:If a school's median GPA went down, is it safe to say that the 25 and 75 probably went down as well? Or could it just mean the numbers are clustered differently?


It seems like the 25/75 would drop too (as with past experience), but I agree that it could just mean a tighter distribution. Unfortunately, median is not affected at all by distribution. Some schools seem to have long tails on the 25th percentiles because once they can hit their desired median, the half under the median can be anything and not affect the median. I don't think we will know the trend until a few schools put out numbers.


I see, thanks. Also, how useful are these numbers in determining your chances for next cycle? It seems like they could be good guideposts as to roughly where one stands, but the numbers will of course change next year. For example, if my GPA was .01 below a school's median for last cycle, I could easily be above median for next cycle. Is it just a given that schools try to hit the same numbers they did last year?

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby doggozeg » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:08 pm

rictheruler wrote:
doggozeg wrote:
rictheruler wrote:If a school's median GPA went down, is it safe to say that the 25 and 75 probably went down as well? Or could it just mean the numbers are clustered differently?


It seems like the 25/75 would drop too (as with past experience), but I agree that it could just mean a tighter distribution. Unfortunately, median is not affected at all by distribution. Some schools seem to have long tails on the 25th percentiles because once they can hit their desired median, the half under the median can be anything and not affect the median. I don't think we will know the trend until a few schools put out numbers.


I see, thanks. Also, how useful are these numbers in determining your chances for next cycle? It seems like they could be good guideposts as to roughly where one stands, but the numbers will of course change next year. For example, if my GPA was .01 below a school's median for last cycle, I could easily be above median for next cycle. Is it just a given that schools try to hit the same numbers they did last year?


So I am not entirely sure of the answer, but I think I agree that you can go off of the prior year (so class of 2020) numbers as a reasonable guide.

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:58 pm

GMU (ASSLAW):
Medians only
162 (0)
3.70 (+.04)

176 Ils (-3)

https://www.law.gmu.edu/news/2017/class_profile_2017

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby #1Gunner » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:19 pm

Penn Sate-Dickinson capped at their 75 student max this year

They didn't mention their medians today - tomorrow is Day 2 of orientation, though

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Postby OakBrook2021 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:04 pm

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:20 pm

Georgia is "up" but no LSAT or GPA only class size.
193 (+15)
http://www.law.uga.edu/class-profile

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:15 pm

Duke:
https://law.duke.edu/admis/classprofile/
166(-1)/169(0)/170(0)
3.57(-.02)/3.75(-.01)/3.84(0)
214(-7)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby kingpin101 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:24 pm

Huskies13! wrote:Duke:
https://law.duke.edu/admis/classprofile/
166(-1)/169(0)/170(0)
3.57(-.02)/3.75(-.01)/3.84(0)
214(-7)

Quite the drop in applicants

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby sparkytrainer » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:29 pm

Huskies13! wrote:Duke:
https://law.duke.edu/admis/classprofile/
166(-1)/169(0)/170(0)
3.57(-.02)/3.75(-.01)/3.84(0)
214(-7)


Good news Duke held serve because not all t13s will be able to.

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:33 pm

UCLA:
163(0)/167(0)/168(0)
3.54(+.05)/3.76(+.02)/3.86(-.02)

298(+8)
5,427 (+74)
https://law.ucla.edu/admissions/class-profile/

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:47 pm

New Mexico:
http://lawschool.unm.edu/admissions/about-students/

702 (+73)apps

120 (+8)enrolled

151(+1)/153(0)/156(-1)
3.15(-.05)/3.46(-.01)/3.70 (+.03)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby MikeSpivey » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:05 pm

MOAR!

(do you people still say it like that?)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby principalagent » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:18 pm

Everyone seems to be holding so far. When is the bottom going to fall out?

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Postby MikeSpivey » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:37 pm

principalagent wrote:Everyone seems to be holding so far. When is the bottom going to fall out?


Over the many years I have been doing this and following this-- I have noted that school's that did not do as well seem to often release their scores later than this that did well.

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:41 pm

Huskies13! wrote:UCLA:
163(0)/167(0)/168(0)
3.54(+.05)/3.76(+.02)/3.86(-.02)

298(+8)
5,427 (+74)
https://law.ucla.edu/admissions/class-profile/


Aww yeah. 8)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby proteinshake » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:50 pm

Huskies13! wrote:UCLA:
163(0)/167(0)/168(0)
3.54(+.05)/3.76(+.02)/3.86(-.02)

298(+8)
5,427 (+74)
https://law.ucla.edu/admissions/class-profile/

nice!

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:51 pm

Huskies13! wrote:Georgia is "up" but no LSAT or GPA only class size.
193 (+15)
http://www.law.uga.edu/class-profile


Updating--news release says:

Class size is 189 (not 193) so (+11).
162 (0)
3.71 (-.02)

http://www.law.uga.edu/news/49099

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby pink_freud257 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:42 pm

I don't believe it's public knowledge yet (though it will be soon), but William & Mary's medians are out via e-mail:

W&M:
4,036 (-207) applications

188 (-48) enrolled

157 (0)/163 (+1)/164 (0)
3.47 (-.02)/3.74 (-.01)/3.85 (-.03)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby loslakers » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:37 pm

USC announced their medians at orientation, no mention of 25th and 75th percentiles.
165 and 3.76, class size of 187

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Postby T25 JD 2020 hopeful » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:57 pm

loslakers wrote:USC announced their medians at orientation, no mention of 25th and 75th percentiles.
165 and 3.76, class size of 187


Wow. They kept the exact same medians but lost 42 students!??

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby T25 JD 2020 hopeful » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:37 pm

McGeorge/Pacific, whatever---TTT carnage!

http://www.mcgeorge.edu/Future_Students ... ms/FAQ.htm
148(-1)/151(-1)/154(-1)
2.89(-.04)/3.19(-.01)/3.4 (-.04)

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby loslakers » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:28 pm

T25 JD 2020 hopeful wrote:
loslakers wrote:USC announced their medians at orientation, no mention of 25th and 75th percentiles.
165 and 3.76, class size of 187


Wow. They kept the exact same medians but lost 42 students!??


tbh i was hoping that with the drop in students they'd be able to bring their median back to 166.

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Keilz » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:02 am

MikeSpivey wrote:
principalagent wrote:Everyone seems to be holding so far. When is the bottom going to fall out?


Over the many years I have been doing this and following this-- I have noted that school's that did not do as well seem to often release their scores later than this that did well.


Do you think schools will see some smaller class sizes in an attempt to hold medians?

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Re: CLASS OF 2020 MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE)

Postby Huskies13! » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:24 pm

Stealing Spivey's thunder:

UF:
https://www.law.ufl.edu/admissions/appl ... ss-profile
Apps: 2884 (+181)
Class: 301 (-13)
155(-1)/161(+1)/163(+2)
3.37(+.04)/3.69(+.09)/3.81(+.04)




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