its easier to just group them together in the "sucks" category.vonrus1 wrote:Is UT actually considered to have better reach than Georgetown now, or is "Georgetown sucks" just a meme?MrAdultman wrote:UT, yo.doggozeg wrote:Except that Georgetown sucksFuture Ex-Engineer wrote:but we can all agree that 14 > everybody else right???MikeSpivey wrote:Pozzo wrote:Well, I hate to be the "Well, actually" guy, but...
Actually, the T3/T6/T14 grouping has less to do with a meaningful distinction in the "caliber" of the school and more to do with the fact that these 3/6/14 schools have been pretty consistently ranked in these bands over the past decade or so.
If you're letting the distinction between bands within the T14 determine what school you go to, you're doing it wrong.
Bingo!
School isn't like "5 is 3 better then 8 and "two worse than 3'"
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I get the feeling that UT is considered stronger in its local market (Dallas/Houston inclusive) than Georgetown is in its own.
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Yeah UT definitely has the dominance in the true south.AJordan wrote:I get the feeling that UT is considered stronger in its local market (Dallas/Houston inclusive) than Georgetown is in its own.
Ultimately they are pretty comparable.
https://www.lstreports.com/compare/texas/gulc/
UT has better fed clerk rates, GT sends more into Biglaw. Neither are really in the "sucks" category.
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Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
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I mean, the fun thing about that hypo is that Georgetown doesn't give full rides. So unless you're gunning for a DC firm (and Georgetown still isn't great for that) or federal government, you're probably better off with UT in every circumstance.vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
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A choice between UT and GULC should be region/money dependent. Also, GULC has a similar percentage of graduates in BL+FC% but has more graduates overall. I doubt UT would be as strong with a class the size of GULC's.
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Gtown for dat lay prestigevonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
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Yo, I'm almost certain that NYU is not 3.7, 3.8, and 3.9 exactly. They post that on their website and they said that to their class, but if you do some digging and look at their 509 report, they really just add to the nearest tenth. It was 3.65, 3.81, 3.89 last year and they rounded it then to 3.7, 3.8. and 3.9.Veil of Ignorance wrote:The fact that Columbia maintained the exact same GPA spread, to the second decimal point, and NYU has exactly a 3.7/3.8/3.9 spread just shows that even in the T6 admissions is very engineered. Not that this is news.
I'm guessing they did the same thing this year
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GULC seems to give better geographic options and more chances at PI. I'd honestly probably struggle more with Georgetown vs Vandy just for location reasons.vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
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Medians!
Hastings:
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd/class-profile/
Apps: 3009 (-407)
Size: 326 (-22)
156(0)/159(0)/161(0)
3.15(-.03)/3.42(-.03)/3.60(-.04)
Hastings:
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd/class-profile/
Apps: 3009 (-407)
Size: 326 (-22)
156(0)/159(0)/161(0)
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Willamette:
http://willamette.edu/law/about/class-p ... index.html
Size: 110 (+5)
148(0)/152(+1)/156(+1)
2.83(+.04)/3.18(0)/3.54(-.03)
http://willamette.edu/law/about/class-p ... index.html
Size: 110 (+5)
148(0)/152(+1)/156(+1)
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As much as I love the GeorgeTTTTown memes, I'd probably choose GULC. But as others have mentioned, this won't be an actual situation since GULC doesn't give full rides.vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
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I was attempting to level the playing field by removing any financial concerns.Slippin' Jimmy wrote:As much as I love the GeorgeTTTTown memes, I'd probably choose GULC. But as others have mentioned, this won't be an actual situation since GULC doesn't give full rides.vonrus1 wrote:Ok, completely original thought experiment that I just made up (of which I'm 100% certain no one has posited on TLS since GT fell in the rankings this year):
0L with no preconceived career goals. Not retaking, no other offers. Full at UT, full at Georgetown. Where y'all goin'?
Motherfuckers pokin' holes in my experiment n shit.
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Hastings
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd ... /index.php
LSAT: 156/159/161 (all unchanged)
GPA: 3.15(-0.03)/3.42(-0.02)/3.60(-0.03)
Class: 326 (-22)
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd ... /index.php
LSAT: 156/159/161 (all unchanged)
GPA: 3.15(-0.03)/3.42(-0.02)/3.60(-0.03)
Class: 326 (-22)
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Dude...gotta be faster!CALaw717 wrote:Hastings
http://www.uchastings.edu/admissions/jd ... /index.php
LSAT: 156/159/161 (all unchanged)
GPA: 3.15(-0.03)/3.42(-0.02)/3.60(-0.03)
Class: 326 (-22)
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American:
https://www.wcl.american.edu/school/adm ... dmissions/
Apps: 4292 (-99)
Size: 418 (-45)
LSAT: 156 (0)
GPA: 3.41 (0)
https://www.wcl.american.edu/school/adm ... dmissions/
Apps: 4292 (-99)
Size: 418 (-45)
LSAT: 156 (0)
GPA: 3.41 (0)
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UNC:
http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/admiss ... t17-18.pdf
Apps: 1359 (-12)
Size: 213 (-1)
157(-1)/161(0)/163(0)
3.33(+.02)/3.56(+.05)/3.71(+.01)
http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/admiss ... t17-18.pdf
Apps: 1359 (-12)
Size: 213 (-1)
157(-1)/161(0)/163(0)
3.33(+.02)/3.56(+.05)/3.71(+.01)
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Albany:
http://www.albanylaw.edu/admissions/class-profile
Apps: 927 (-86)
Size: 150 (+4)
150(+1)/152(0)/155(+1)
2.81(-.20)/3.36(+.02)/3.56(+.01)
http://www.albanylaw.edu/admissions/class-profile
Apps: 927 (-86)
Size: 150 (+4)
150(+1)/152(0)/155(+1)
2.81(-.20)/3.36(+.02)/3.56(+.01)
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Does anyone know where the Boston University numbers came from? I (briefly) looked and didn't see them, but could have easily skipped over them.
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Lewis & Clark:
http://law.lclark.edu/offices/admission ... s_profile/
Size: 172 (-2)
3.12(+.07)/3.39(+.05)/3.61(+.01)
154/157/160(-1)
http://law.lclark.edu/offices/admission ... s_profile/
Size: 172 (-2)
3.12(+.07)/3.39(+.05)/3.61(+.01)
154/157/160(-1)
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Wayne State:
https://law.wayne.edu/jd/profile
Apps: 811 (+134)
Size: 147 (+8)
3.17(-.14)/3.43(-.01)/3.69(+.02)
153(+1)/157(0)/160(+1)
https://law.wayne.edu/jd/profile
Apps: 811 (+134)
Size: 147 (+8)
3.17(-.14)/3.43(-.01)/3.69(+.02)
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