T-13? T-15? What do we do with Texas and GTown? Forum

[HarveySpecterr]

Please pardon me if this discussion has already happened and, if that's your response, just send me a link. I understand the artificiality of the rankings system, and do not want to begin a discussion that interrogates the meaningfulness thereof. Rather, in the spirit of nerdy fun (which is what all this amounts to for me, otherwise I'd be studying for the LSAT), I wonder what do we make of the Longhorn assault on the T-14? Will we now speak of the T-15? Or have those 14 schools become so tenured that, rather than admit another, we simply ban Georgetown and call it a T-13? In other words, do we allow Texas a place in that exalted group of programs that we consider the best of the best?

[grades??]

This has been discussed extensively. It is now the t13. Texas is still a regional law school so it doesn't fit into the national category. Georgetown did this to themselves. So for now, its t-13

[hairbear7]

Anything other than T-13 is fake news

[lymenheimer]

http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 2&t=275065

[HarveySpecterr]

Until Texas overtakes Berkeley or Cornell . . .

[cheaptilts]

Until Texas overtakes Berkeley or Cornell . . .

Judging by its latest employment numbers, that may take awhile

a very long while

[ernie]

USNWR rankings are incredibly stupid. But yes, the convention is T13, as it ought to be.

T14 with UT at 14 would be confusing, since most references to T14 refer to the previous lineup, which included GULC and excluded UT.
T14 with GULC at 14 would be confusing because it's inaccurate—GULC is not a Top 14 school.
T15 doesn't make sense, because GULC is tied with UCLA. So it would need to be T16. But once we've added in UCLA, the T-whatever distinction becomes even more meaningless than it already is.

[enoca]

If you look at the raw scores rather than just the ordinal rankings, it can help show why it is the t-13, not the t-15.

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2017/ ... -presented

[HarveySpecterr]

If you look at the raw scores rather than just the ordinal rankings, it can help show why it is the t-13, not the t-15.

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2017/ ... -presented

We have a winner. Thank you, enoca.

[Mr. Blackacre]

For what it's worth, the dean of GULC apparently mentioned that we went down because our spending per student went down. Thankfully, the school hasn't made a huge deal of it (yet) or sent one of those big whiny e-mails.

Not too upset because we crushed UT on employment numbers this year. On that basis I'd be inclined to say that we're T14 still, but then Vandy destroyed us too. And that graph is pretty convincing. So whatever, T13 it is.

[Big Dog]

T14 with GULC at 14 would be confusing because it's inaccurate—GULC is not a Top 14 school.

Yes, it is confusing bcos GULC IS* in a member of the T14 even if its not in the top 14 this year.

*By convention, the T14 is the top 14 law schools that have been ranked in the USNews top 10 at least once. (You can look it up.)

[ernie]

T14 with GULC at 14 would be confusing because it's inaccurate—GULC is not a Top 14 school.

Yes, it is confusing bcos GULC IS* in a member of the T14 even if its not in the top 14 this year.

*By convention, the T14 is the top 14 law schools that have been ranked in the USNews top 10 at least once. (You can look it up.)

Sure