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Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:46 pm
by PotentialApplicant00
Hi all,

I was accepted to Columbia Business School in November to begin in August 2017. Law has always interested me, and my girlfriend (who works at a law school) is putting some pressure on me to try to apply to the law school by February 15th for a JD/MBA. I am very confident I'd do well on the LSAT (GMAT was 760 out of 800 - 99th percentile), but I'm afraid that my GPA of 3.35 would completely screw me over. Let's say I score a 172 or higher on LSAT, could that offset the low GPA? Would my admission to the business school have any effect? If chances are +30%, I'd be more than willing to not sleep for the next month and knock out a law school application. I'd also consider myself somewhat of an "expert" on b-school admissions. So I think that with some research, I could quickly get acclimated to law school admissions as well.

A little bit about my background.. I'm an accountant with a CFA and CPA, working in investment accounting for a large insurance company. I went to Univ of Delaware, honors program, graduating with 3.35 in Accounting and Finance. My post-MBA goal is investment management, but with a law degree, I think the venture capital/private equity space would be more accessible, or I could work in securities law. I also have great volunteer/extracurricular experiences. 28 years (at matriculation) white male w/ 4 years of professional work experience.

THANK YOU!

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:07 pm
by heythatslife
Hate to break it to you but your chances at CLS with a 3.35 GPA is pretty bleak even with a 172 LSAT. I know that in B-school admissions the soft factors are materially important and can overcome a weaker undergrad GPA but law school admissions doesn't work like that. It's mostly about that LSAT-GPA combo in this ball game. Also, if you don't have an LSAT score now, I don't think you can apply this cycle anyway.

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:20 pm
by big_willy_style_333
Yeah, setting aside your chances at admission stats-wise, this seems poorly thought out. According to the CLS website, you have missed the LSAT deadline for this cycle. Additionally, you have like 3ish weeks until the test date and do not seem well acquainted with the preparation required for a score of 170+. I would not assume that a high GMAT score equates to a high LSAT score, especially without proper preparation (take a diagnostic to see for yourself). Furthermore, it seems like you are set on a career outside of law, in which case you would generally be advised against going to law school.

My (admittedly uninformed) advice would be to get your MBA and enjoy your career in the investment world, as I am sure you will have plenty of options with a CFA, a CPA, and a Columbia MBA.

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:20 pm
by 34iplaw
Yeah... I think you can look to see whether you can apply in your first year as an MBA. A lot of schools offer JDs to apply to their MBAs in their first year at the very least. CLS is pretty friendly to splitters which is good, but it also means you would need to crush the LSAT. If you hit their 75th for the cycle (typically median+1), you should have a good shot at getting in.

Regarding LSAT & GMAT, rumor is the LSAT is harder, but I primarily read about JD & JD-MBA from the JD perspective so that is likely skewed. That said, I wouldn't be certain of a 170 without prep esp. if you lost most of your points in the sections more pertinent to the LSAT (i.e. not quant). Either way, try to take a PT in test conditions and see how you fare. Maybe apply as a first year in the MBA.

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:07 pm
by dabigchina
I think you have an ok shot.

CPA, CFA, real work experience are pretty solid softs that CLS cares about. I got in with similar numbers without the MBA cross-admit.

Edit: I just saw that you don't have a real LSAT score. I wouldn't just assume you can get a 172 because you got 760 on the GMAT.

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:14 pm
by DCfilterDC
there's definitely a sizable bump in cross mba/jd admissions at cls. but anyway you need to actually have an lsat before going through this exercise

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:01 pm
by PotentialApplicant00
You guys have all been tremendous. Thanks a ton for your help.

With little time to research, I felt like going to a forum would provide me the quickest and most accurate answer. Maybe I will do more research and consider applying next year. Anyways, thanks again for all your help!

Re: Chances at Columbia for admitted MBA

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:11 pm
by mathis1490
DCfilterDC wrote:there's definitely a sizable bump in cross mba/jd admissions at cls. but anyway you need to actually have an lsat before going through this exercise


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