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When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:55 pm
by lzyovrachievr
(NOTE: Many, many schools will offer fee waivers by request. Some will tell you to chill and wait for CRS. Can't hurt to ask, but make sure you avoid major typos like calling one school by another's name. They might not forget.)

>>I went through the Fee Waiver Thread from last cycle to see what waivers were received in the week after October LSAT Scores were released (to see if it's worth waiting to submit these applications). Nothing solid, but it's possible that we'll see the same general trend.

Hope this helps some people!

Here's what I found:

Several schools offered waivers by request, most lower than T14, but it's worth e-mailing outside of probably T6 if you're competitive. Columbia just said wait for CRS. NYU didn't respond positively either.

There are some repeats if schools e-mailed on different days, etc, and some schools e-mail with waivers even though they waive their fee.

The original thread is here:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79774. I left off at page 84 if people are looking for stats for the week after this one.

Actual fee waivers this cycle that I've heard of will be bolded or added in bold so you can both see which ones have come and see if schools are following trends from last year.

Monday:

Email:
UVA
Duke, PT and no PT
W&M
WUSTL
BU
South Carolina
U. Miami
Cincinnati
Baylor Mailed
Iowa
UCLA
Tennessee
Utah
Michigan State
Wash U
Buffalo
Georgia
Indiana Bloomington
Georgetown
U Minn
Temple
Creighton
Arkon
Brigham Young
LSU
SLU
USC

Hidden:
UCLA
Penn
Texas
Michigan
NYU
Duke
BU
Georgetown
Northwestern

Mail:
Cornell
Baylor
Charleston

Tuesday:

Email:
Iowa
Richmond
Wake Forest
UIUC
Case Western
St. John's
Texas Wesleyan
St.Thomas
Seton Hall
Florida A&M for FAMU students
Capital Law
Hofstra
Northwestern
Texas Tech
Ave Maria
Penn State
Drexel
Cardozo
Chicago-Kent
U of Maine
Suffolk

Hidden:
Columbia
Michigan
GULC
Penn
Northwestern
UMinn
Gonzaga
McGeorge
Chicago

Wednesday

Email:
Temple
Pittsburgh
Vanderbilt
Columbia
UCLA
Emory
Houston
Quinnipiac
Northwestern
Georgetown
San Diego
Indiana-Indianapolis
Michigan
Ohio Northern
Case Western
Syracuse
UTA
Alabama
Northeastern
St. John's
Oklahoma City
California Western
Villanova
Cumberland
Dayton
Suffolk
Texas


Hidden:
Vanderbilt
Tulsa
Columbia
Texas
Penn
Notre Dame

Letter:
Cornell

Thursday:

Email:
W&M
Wash U
Michigan
Notre Dame
Regent
Washburn
Seton Hall
Alabama
Georgia
Michigan State
Arizona
U of Houston
Iowa
Quinnipiac
Illinois - doesn't have fee anyway
Tulane
Dayton
Indiana- Indianapolis
Santa Clara
U Phoenix
Gonzaga
New England Law

Hidden:
Georgia
Vermont
DePaul
Lewis & Clark

Mail:
George Mason
Ohio State
Wisconsin

Friday

Email:
Tulane
Cardozo
Pepperdine
UConn
Valparaiso
St. Thomas
Phoenix School of Law

Hidden:
Hofstra
Chicago

Mail:
Penn
Ole Miss

The following schools DO NOT traditionally give merit-based fee waivers

Yale
Harvard
Stanford
Berkeley
George Washington
Fordham
Boston College

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:00 pm
by Dany
Lzy, you are awesome.

AND BEFORE SOMEONE ASKS: Here Is How To Check For A Hidden Waiver.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:17 pm
by lzyovrachievr
^^ Lol. Absolutely necessary. Some particularly funny things from that thread were the lovely trolling by Helmholtz (Guys, ask schools for waivers for the $12 LSAC fee too!) and the amount of times people asked "What is a hidden waiver and how do I find it!!"

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:06 pm
by moxiepostulate
I'm bumping this so I can keep it on the first page and refer to it maniacally over the next week.

Good job, btw :mrgreen:

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:08 pm
by MissLucky
same. what score range does duke typically target for PT, btw?

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:14 pm
by lzyovrachievr
Thanks guys.

As for Duke PT, I'd check out this thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=126686

It lists a lot of people that got an invite.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:15 pm
by Fresh
MissLucky wrote:same. what score range does duke typically target for PT, btw?


If you've already submitted to Duke and you get a PT invite afterwords, can your app be transferred to the priority track??

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:30 pm
by lzyovrachievr
^^ Don't know this.

But here's the numbers for several people that got PT and some that have been admitted that I know of:

3.8 / 171 (Admit)
3.87 / 160 /AA
3.8x / 171
3.88 / 172
3.66 / 177 /AA (Admit)
3.62 172
3.6x/171
3.6/173
3.77 / 170 (Admit)
4.1 / 172
3.85 / 170
3.9/177
3.85/ 173 (Admit)

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:47 am
by lzyovrachievr
I'm going to try to update the list a bit this week. Actual fee waivers this cycle that I've heard of will be bolded or added in bold (if they weren't on the original list) so you can both see which ones have come and see if schools are following trends from last year.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:17 am
by neonx
Thank you so much for doing this! I really appreciate it. I just used it to confirm four hidden waivers (and W&M sent theirs via inbox early, early this morning.)

Also -- this may be a dumb question, but the CRS fee waiver only applies if you're sending your application online right? You'd have to pay if you're sending paper apps?

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:48 pm
by lzyovrachievr
neonx wrote:Thank you so much for doing this! I really appreciate it. I just used it to confirm four hidden waivers (and W&M sent theirs via inbox early, early this morning.)

Also -- this may be a dumb question, but the CRS fee waiver only applies if you're sending your application online right? You'd have to pay if you're sending paper apps?


No problem, I needed the info too!

I would assume so, as you only find out about the hidden ones when you click submit. As for the other fee waivers, if the schools e-mail you or mail you a letter about it, then it should apply to paper apps as well. Are you doing paper apps? I didn't know that people really did that much anymore.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:58 pm
by cafedumonde
This is great, thank you! Does anyone know if people get fee waivers from schools they applied to the previous cycle? I retook the LSAT and my score jumped so I was hoping I would get more fee waivers but so far I haven't gotten any from schools that gave me them and to which I applied last year.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:01 pm
by neonx
cafedumonde wrote:This is great, thank you! Does anyone know if people get fee waivers from schools they applied to the previous cycle? I retook the LSAT and my score jumped so I was hoping I would get more fee waivers but so far I haven't gotten any from schools that gave me them and to which I applied last year.


I pulled this from ATL's FAQ thread.


Q: I took the LSAT in previous cycles or am re-applying and am not receiving them, what should I do?

This thread has more info: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127020
Wait until after the CRS wave goes out(which you can see in the thread linked) and e-mail politely and ask. So far this cycle(08/26/2010).

Schools with ninjas for admissions officers: (Managed to find us despite nobody else being able to)
Duke
Santa Clara

Horchata asked for a second fee waiver to use.
Schools that said yes:
UVA
Michigan
Boston U.
U. Illinois
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Minnesota
USD
ASU

Schools that said no:
Columbia
Penn

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:02 pm
by Adjudicator
Just this morning I already got fee waivers from William and Marry, and Washington University.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:06 pm
by lzyovrachievr
Adjudicator wrote:Just this morning I already got fee waivers from William and Marry, and Washington University.


Good! Yea, me too. You'll notice they are bolded at the top. I'm trying to stalk the fee waiver thread and add in schools as they come. But if people want to notify here as well, that is helpful.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:18 pm
by cowgirl_bebop
Great info!

I received W&M this morning (although Im not going to apply), and some others I received a while back because I hit up the law school fairs (Miami, San Diego, etc.). Ive already sent in most of my apps, so that may be a factor as well.

Technically I dont need any (LSAC waiver), but receiving some directly from the school gives me a boost in knowing that they are at least somewhat interested in me. I'm curious to see what happens tomorrow.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:38 pm
by edgarfigaro
Just got Indiana Bloomington waiver via email.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:51 pm
by cjr52
Just got a waiver from Minnesota via email.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:52 pm
by teaadntoast
UVA, Georgetown and Minnesota via e-mail.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:53 pm
by klevashov
This may be a dumb question, but do you have to finish the primary app for a school to check for a hidden waiver? When I follow OP's directions, I get an error pop-up window that says "you have NOT completed the application", and won't let me continue. Anyone know about this?

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:54 pm
by lastch2
got UVA, W&M, Michigan State today...discouraged not to get more with a 177...hmmm

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:55 pm
by lzyovrachievr
klevashov wrote:This may be a dumb question, but do you have to finish the primary app for a school to check for a hidden waiver? When I follow OP's directions, I get an error pop-up window that says "you have NOT completed the application", and won't let me continue. Anyone know about this?


Yep. Complete the necessary sections of the primary app and then you're good to go. Shouldn't take too long, and some sections don't have to be filled in. Put in some info, and save the changes. Then try it again.

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:55 pm
by lastch2
klevashov wrote:This may be a dumb question, but do you have to finish the primary app for a school to check for a hidden waiver? When I follow OP's directions, I get an error pop-up window that says "you have NOT completed the application", and won't let me continue. Anyone know about this?


yeah i had to

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:10 pm
by rinkrat19
Virginia, Duke, WUSTL, Minnesota, Indiana, Temple, Creighton so far this morning.

I'm pretty set on where I want to go, but I might apply to places that won't require huge rewrites of my essays, just for kicks.

ETA: UCLA, South Carolina

Re: When To Expect Fee Waivers After October LSAT

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:25 pm
by yngblkgifted
teaadntoast wrote:UVA, Georgetown and Minnesota via e-mail.


I got an email from Georgetown, but no fee waiver? :(

Did yours mention a fee waiver?