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Couldn't get past the first sentence.cavalier1138 wrote:Which one of these Florida institutions lets its students get away with this level of writing (yes, even for a post on an internet forum)?
Winner.grand inquisitor wrote:this was like reading the side of the dr. bronner soap bottle
Bolded seems much more plausible. UF/FSU are peers throughout the state of Florida, although UF does place more in private practice year over year than FSU. And obviously going to a T14 with ties to Florida is arguably the best way to get in to Miami/South Florida.fonzeee wrote:As someone who wants to practice in Miami eventually, I'd actually be interested in reading a serious take on this.
I've heard basically T14/UF/FSU > UM > FIU if we're limiting this purely to Florida schools. FSU decent but not ideal for south Florida I think?
That said, UM's bar passage rate last year was scary bad (like 70%).
Any truth to the idea I've heard from some that there's advantages to going UM over UF/FSU for getting into Miami? Not necessarily biglaw, just any private practice aside from going solo.UVA2B wrote:Bolded seems much more plausible. UF/FSU are peers throughout the state of Florida, although UF does place more in private practice year over year than FSU. And obviously going to a T14 with ties to Florida is arguably the best way to get in to Miami/South Florida.fonzeee wrote:As someone who wants to practice in Miami eventually, I'd actually be interested in reading a serious take on this.
I've heard basically T14/UF/FSU > UM > FIU if we're limiting this purely to Florida schools. FSU decent but not ideal for south Florida I think?
That said, UM's bar passage rate last year was scary bad (like 70%).
Very interesting. UF and even UM surprisingly well-represented.grand inquisitor wrote:this is super anecdotal, but check out the bios of the summer associate classes at bilzin to get an idea for the various constituencies feeding the miami market. i chose bilzin bc its easy to get info on its summer class composition rather than bc i am certain their classes are representative of the market. i'm sure some asshole is going to come in and note that w&c miami draws on a very different pool, which is likely true to an extent.
If you're getting outside of Biglaw, the importance of networking goes up pretty substantially, so there is definitely some truth to an advantage UM grads have in getting non-Biglaw jobs in Miami over a UF/FSU grad (note: this is not necessarily an endorsement of going to UM over UF/FSU, and should not be read as such). That's not to say a UF/FSU student couldn't network during summers, via email and remote contact, etc., but smaller firms might value a UM student who can do some work for them during the school year, see them regularly, and really get to know them better where they would be more inclined to hire them right out of school.fonzeee wrote:Any truth to the idea I've heard from some that there's advantages to going UM over UF/FSU for getting into Miami? Not necessarily biglaw, just any private practice aside from going solo.UVA2B wrote:Bolded seems much more plausible. UF/FSU are peers throughout the state of Florida, although UF does place more in private practice year over year than FSU. And obviously going to a T14 with ties to Florida is arguably the best way to get in to Miami/South Florida.fonzeee wrote:As someone who wants to practice in Miami eventually, I'd actually be interested in reading a serious take on this.
I've heard basically T14/UF/FSU > UM > FIU if we're limiting this purely to Florida schools. FSU decent but not ideal for south Florida I think?
That said, UM's bar passage rate last year was scary bad (like 70%).
Also would it be right to say that lateralling from, say NYC, is best anyway?
Interesting, seems like they take a relatively large amount of 1L SAs, most of which go to T13/T20 schools and have Florida ties. As someone who will hopefully be attending a T13/T20 with strong Florida ties this is encouraging.grand inquisitor wrote:this is super anecdotal, but check out the bios of the summer associate classes at bilzin to get an idea for the various constituencies feeding the miami market. i chose bilzin bc its easy to get info on its summer class composition rather than bc i am certain their classes are representative of the market. i'm sure some asshole is going to come in and note that w&c miami draws on a very different pool, which is likely true to an extent.
Bar passage shouldn't be your concern, those UM kids who failed did so from their own wrongdoing, nothing to do with the school.fonzeee wrote:As someone who wants to practice in Miami eventually, I'd actually be interested in reading a serious take on this.
I've heard basically UF > UM > FIU if we're limiting this purely to Florida schools. FSU decent but not ideal for south Florida I think?
That said, UM's bar passage rate last year was scary bad (like 70%).
The circumstance that matters most is going to be where you get your JD. You can work in Miami for a decade, but if you go to FIU, biglaw probably isn't happening.Southend97 wrote:I attended the University of Miami for 2 years as an undergrad and enjoyed my time there but was forced to transfer due to health and money issues. I now attend school in Texas but would like to return to South Florida to work for a year before I apply to law schools. I know ties are very important to break into the Miami market and I'm wondering if my circumstances are good enough for consideration for a government or big law job in Miami?
Just wanted to say that this is dangerous advice coming from someone who hasn't been through law school classes yet. There is no such thing as planning to be the top of your class from pretty much anywhere. Ask anyone who has been through law school classes (at a minimum, a semester of 1L at an ABA accredited school), and they'll tell you just how unpredictable performance can be before it gets started. So while Miami Biglaw might be peppered with UF and UM grads, that doesn't mean going to UF or UM means you'll be in a position from those schools to get Miami Biglaw necessarily. You're likely to be practicing law in Florida more generally if you go to UF or UM, but there is no reasonable assurance that you'll be in the portion of the class at either to be in Biglaw, much less specifically Miami Biglaw.mrcfa1995 wrote:If you want miami biglaw and you don't have strong ties to the region, go to UM law or Levin at UF and graduate near the top of your class. Easiest way to get into the miami firms. Look on the websites of biglaw firms in miami and see how many associates are UM or UF grads that graduated cum laude or better.Southend97 wrote:I'm wondering if my circumstances are good enough for consideration for a government or big law job in Miami?
Which is why you shouldn't specifically target it when choosing a school unless you have ties, which allows you to attend a T13 while still having a shot at Miami. Doing so is just too risky.mrcfa1995 wrote:Yeah I agree my previous post was an over-simplification and you have to expect the median outcome wherever you go; but Miami is definitely a tough market to crack without regional tiesUVA2B wrote:this is dangerous advice coming from someone who hasn't been through law school classes yet