Re: Whittier Shutting Down
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:42 pm
Some people simply should not go to law school.
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Absolutely. Until more schools follow Whittier out the door though, I don't expect much to change. There are plenty of other schools with bad placement rates that will be happy to tell prospective students that if they work hard they can do anything, and soak up the extra tuition money.Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
Yeah, but if that video shows you anything it's that "some people" just don't have the self-awareness to realize they're one of them. If you have to redo your 3L year because you couldn't cut it at the worst law school in the country, and still don't see the writing on the wall, there is no hope for you.Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
I'm pretty sure a lot of these people, who go to law schools like this, assume that passing the bar and becoming a lawyer is a sufficient condition for making six figures post-graduation.White Dwarf wrote:Yeah, but if that video shows you anything it's that "some people" just don't have the self-awareness to realize they're one of them. If you have to redo your 3L year because you couldn't cut it at the worst law school in the country, and still don't see the writing on the wall, there is no hope for you.Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
That ATL video was wild, but I guess what else do you expectWhite Dwarf wrote:Yeah, but if that video shows you anything it's that "some people" just don't have the self-awareness to realize they're one of them. If you have to redo your 3L year because you couldn't cut it at the worst law school in the country, and still don't see the writing on the wall, there is no hope for you.Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
It was weird. The culture of that law school is light-years away from mine.DCfilterDC wrote:That ATL video was wild, but I guess what else do you expectWhite Dwarf wrote:Yeah, but if that video shows you anything it's that "some people" just don't have the self-awareness to realize they're one of them. If you have to redo your 3L year because you couldn't cut it at the worst law school in the country, and still don't see the writing on the wall, there is no hope for you.Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
pretty sure most people think that, unfortunately.Greenteachurro wrote:I'm pretty sure a lot of these people, who go to law schools like this, assume that passing the bar and becoming a lawyer is a sufficient condition for making six figures post-graduation.
Naw I think mostly everyone would react in the same way if it was announced suddenly that their law school was shutting down. Whittier was a dumb decision for those students, but their reaction is pretty normal--at least I think so.Pragmatic Gun wrote:It was weird. The culture of that law school is light-years away from mine.DCfilterDC wrote:That ATL video was wild, but I guess what else do you expectWhite Dwarf wrote:Yeah, but if that video shows you anything it's that "some people" just don't have the self-awareness to realize they're one of them. If you have to redo your 3L year because you couldn't cut it at the worst law school in the country, and still don't see the writing on the wall, there is no hope for you.Pragmatic Gun wrote:Some people simply should not go to law school.
"We're here to announce terrible news for all of you, and to let you know to e-mail us your questions, because we won't answer any now"anyriotgirl wrote:in fairness to the students, the people making the announcement seemed pretty unprepared for that meeting
Yeah that was terrible.DCfilterDC wrote:"We're here to announce terrible news for all of you, and to let you know to e-mail us your questions, because we won't answer any now"anyriotgirl wrote:in fairness to the students, the people making the announcement seemed pretty unprepared for that meeting
Can't imagine what the presenters were thinking when they said "and now we'll stay here to answer your questions." Couldn't disclose much about how the decision was made (I don't think the presenters recognized how focused the students would be on re-litigating an issue that the presenters probably perceived as a done deal) and they had no information at all about next steps. What were they hoping the questions would be about?jjcorvino wrote:Yeah that was terrible.DCfilterDC wrote:"We're here to announce terrible news for all of you, and to let you know to e-mail us your questions, because we won't answer any now"anyriotgirl wrote:in fairness to the students, the people making the announcement seemed pretty unprepared for that meeting
I'm sure the question part was just a formality. I'm sure they didn't really think much of it.mjb447 wrote:Can't imagine what the presenters were thinking when they said "and now we'll stay here to answer your questions." Couldn't disclose much about how the decision was made (I don't think the presenters recognized how focused the students would be on re-litigating an issue that the presenters probably perceived as a done deal) and they had no information at all about next steps. What were they hoping the questions would be about?jjcorvino wrote:Yeah that was terrible.DCfilterDC wrote:"We're here to announce terrible news for all of you, and to let you know to e-mail us your questions, because we won't answer any now"anyriotgirl wrote:in fairness to the students, the people making the announcement seemed pretty unprepared for that meeting
this just gets worse and worseatl wrote: What’s critical to note here is that, as detailed in the faculty’s TRO application (posted on the next page), the Board sold off the land upon which the law school is built in January 2017, for the sum of $13 million. Faculty were allegedly led to believe that the money would be reinvested back into the law school, but here we are just a few months later, and the Board is crying poverty, claiming that there isn’t anything they’re able to do to save the law program at the school.
atl wrote: it’s difficult to understand why this devastating news was delivered to students one week before final exams. It’s almost as if the Board wants these law students to do poorly
Was it handled right? No. But the best thing the board ever did for the current students, who by their own admission in the video are $200k in debt and need to retake classes just to get a 3.0, is to shut down the law school. They will be able to get a closed school discharge and won't have all that terrible debt with terrible job prospects hanging over their headsdietcoke1 wrote:this just gets worse and worseatl wrote: What’s critical to note here is that, as detailed in the faculty’s TRO application (posted on the next page), the Board sold off the land upon which the law school is built in January 2017, for the sum of $13 million. Faculty were allegedly led to believe that the money would be reinvested back into the law school, but here we are just a few months later, and the Board is crying poverty, claiming that there isn’t anything they’re able to do to save the law program at the school.
atl wrote: it’s difficult to understand why this devastating news was delivered to students one week before final exams. It’s almost as if the Board wants these law students to do poorly
I don't disagree. I guess I just didn't realize how bad the situation actually is/was.trebekismyhero wrote:
LOL.yupyup wrote:The faculty tried to get a TRO.
http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/whittier ... -its-wake/