Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School Forum
-
- Posts: 2151
- Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:18 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
https://hls.harvard.edu/content/uploads ... duates.pdf
598 graduates
339 biglaw = 56.6%
115 FC = 19.2%
FC + BL = 75.8% (+4.8 )
EDIT
598 graduates
339 biglaw = 56.6%
115 FC = 19.2%
FC + BL = 75.8% (+4.8 )
EDIT
Last edited by runinthefront on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:05 pm, edited 4 times in total.
-
- Posts: 985
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:55 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
YSD confirmed
- Pragmatic Gun
- Posts: 1361
- Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:25 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
I'm still counting that short-term clerk as there is a chance they will end up in a Biglaw firm anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.Lavitz wrote:There are definitely 11 federal clerks right now, and I wasn't aware any of them were "short-term." I wonder what's up with that.runinthefront wrote:http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... ummary.pdf
looks like 74.4% in 101+ firm gigs & fed clerkships combined
184 graduates
127 in biglaw = 69%
10 in clerkships = 5.4%
(+7.8% increase from the 2015 #s)
Oh well. At least we're not c/o 2015.
I think it's actually an 11.4% increase according to my arithmetic. Either way, it's an upward trend. If we count that short-term clerkship, it would be a 12% increase.
-
- Posts: 16639
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:19 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
I'm consistently taken aback by just how large H's class is.
- Lavitz
- Posts: 3402
- Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
I don't see how you're getting 11.4%?Pragmatic Gun wrote:I'm still counting that short-term clerk as there is a chance they will end up in a Biglaw firm anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think it's actually an 11.4% increase according to my arithmetic. Either way, it's an upward trend. If we count that short-term clerkship, it would be a 12% increase.
And I don't really care whether we count the short-term clerk. I'm willing to bet that someone just filled out the form the wrong way. But I also know one of the 11 didn't have a 2L SA, so not guaranteed they get biglaw afterwards.
Want to continue reading?
Register now to search topics and post comments!
Absolutely FREE!
Already a member? Login
- UVA2B
- Posts: 3570
- Joined: Sun May 22, 2016 10:48 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
- UVA2B
- Posts: 3570
- Joined: Sun May 22, 2016 10:48 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Nvm, missed thisruninthefront wrote:UVA is not "live" yet, but playing around with the URL got me the linkCR7 wrote:Curious to see how these numbers compare to Mich. and UVA.runinthefront wrote:http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... ummary.pdf
looks like 74.4% in 101+ firm gigs & fed clerkships combined
184 graduates
127 in biglaw = 69%
10 in clerkships = 5.4%
(+7.8% increase from the 2015 #s)
http://www.law.virginia.edu/pdf/aba/2016employment.pdf
330 graduates
206 in biglaw = 62.4%
48 in clerkships = 14.5%
BL + FC = 76.9% (+6.9% from last year's...although I now realize that last year's thread had #s rounded to the nearest whole number. whatevs)
- RParadela
- Posts: 858
- Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:04 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
1% point difference, but UVA has better clerkship numbers soUVA2B wrote:It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
- Pragmatic Gun
- Posts: 1361
- Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:25 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
All right, let's just get rid of that datum then. Here are my numbers.Lavitz wrote:I don't see how you're getting 11.4%?Pragmatic Gun wrote:I'm still counting that short-term clerk as there is a chance they will end up in a Biglaw firm anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think it's actually an 11.4% increase according to my arithmetic. Either way, it's an upward trend. If we count that short-term clerkship, it would be a 12% increase.
And I don't really care whether we count the short-term clerk. I'm willing to bet that someone just filled out the form the wrong way. But I also know one of the 11 didn't have a 2L SA, so not guaranteed they get biglaw afterwards.
Cornell Employment Stats Year 2015 2016
Biglaw (+101 firms) 116 127
federal clerkships 7 10
subtotal 123 137
total fully legal employed 164 166
total graduates 183 184
"quality" job percentage 67.2% 74.5%
percentage employed in legal jobs 89.6% 90.2%
Divide 137 by 123 and you get 1.1138. Multiplying a number by a 1 with decimals after it increases it by a percentage, which are the first two decimal points. In this case, it is 1.1138 (you count the 3 as the decimal point in the percentage.
-
- Posts: 985
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:55 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
I don't know where you see that. The Duke numbers has 15.6% fed clerkship, and the UVA has 14.5%. So its higher for Duke in combined numbers and clerkship numbers too.RParadela wrote:1% point difference, but UVA has better clerkship numbers soUVA2B wrote:It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
- Lavitz
- Posts: 3402
- Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Oh. Yeah, we don't do it like that. Like if there's an increase from 2% to 3%, we say it increased by 1%, not 50%.Pragmatic Gun wrote:All right, let's just get rid of that datum then. Here are my numbers.Lavitz wrote:I don't see how you're getting 11.4%?Pragmatic Gun wrote:I'm still counting that short-term clerk as there is a chance they will end up in a Biglaw firm anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think it's actually an 11.4% increase according to my arithmetic. Either way, it's an upward trend. If we count that short-term clerkship, it would be a 12% increase.
And I don't really care whether we count the short-term clerk. I'm willing to bet that someone just filled out the form the wrong way. But I also know one of the 11 didn't have a 2L SA, so not guaranteed they get biglaw afterwards.
Cornell Employment Stats Year 2015 2016
Biglaw (+101 firms) 116 127
federal clerkships 7 10
subtotal 123 137
total fully legal employed 164 166
total graduates 183 184
"quality" job percentage 67.2% 74.5%
percentage employed in legal jobs 89.6% 90.2%
Divide 137 by 123 and you get 1.1138. Multiplying a number by a 1 with decimals after it increases it by a percentage, which are the first two decimal points. In this case, it is 1.1138 (you count the 3 as the decimal point in the percentage.
- bitter_melon
- Posts: 161
- Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:19 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Technically, you should say that it increased by one percentage point, 1% indicates that something increased from 100-101, not from 2-3, which would be 50% but one percentage point.Lavitz wrote:Oh. Yeah, we don't do it like that. Like if there's an increase from 2% to 3%, we say it increased by 1%, not 50%.Pragmatic Gun wrote:All right, let's just get rid of that datum then. Here are my numbers.Lavitz wrote:I don't see how you're getting 11.4%?Pragmatic Gun wrote:I'm still counting that short-term clerk as there is a chance they will end up in a Biglaw firm anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think it's actually an 11.4% increase according to my arithmetic. Either way, it's an upward trend. If we count that short-term clerkship, it would be a 12% increase.
And I don't really care whether we count the short-term clerk. I'm willing to bet that someone just filled out the form the wrong way. But I also know one of the 11 didn't have a 2L SA, so not guaranteed they get biglaw afterwards.
Cornell Employment Stats Year 2015 2016
Biglaw (+101 firms) 116 127
federal clerkships 7 10
subtotal 123 137
total fully legal employed 164 166
total graduates 183 184
"quality" job percentage 67.2% 74.5%
percentage employed in legal jobs 89.6% 90.2%
Divide 137 by 123 and you get 1.1138. Multiplying a number by a 1 with decimals after it increases it by a percentage, which are the first two decimal points. In this case, it is 1.1138 (you count the 3 as the decimal point in the percentage.
-
- Posts: 569
- Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:41 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
For some reason, it really bothers me that Nebby put U of Penn and not just Penn. Absolutely triggered.
ETA: Nebby is based for listening to my petty criticism and changing it to Penn.
ETA: Nebby is based for listening to my petty criticism and changing it to Penn.
Last edited by RedPurpleBlue on Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Register now!
Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.
It's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
- Lavitz
- Posts: 3402
- Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Yeah, I know there's a more technical way to phrase it, but we do whatever the method is in the OP.bitter_melon wrote:Technically, you should say that it increased by one percentage point, 1% indicates that something increased from 100-101, not from 2-3, which would be 50% but one percentage point.
- RParadela
- Posts: 858
- Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:04 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Oh shit really? I was thinking Duke pretty much followed suit from last year with fed clerkships.grades?? wrote:I don't know where you see that. The Duke numbers has 15.6% fed clerkship, and the UVA has 14.5%. So its higher for Duke in combined numbers and clerkship numbers too.RParadela wrote:1% point difference, but UVA has better clerkship numbers soUVA2B wrote:It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
-
- Posts: 54
- Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:56 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Penn State - 9.5% (+5.4%)
-
- Posts: 985
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:55 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
yeah, literally look at the first post of this thread. I would bet real money Duke's clerkship numbers is even higher next year. They hired two new clerkship people who have really done a wonderful job the past few years and now are really getting moving. Poor UVA's prestige (jk what prestige now that ol duke has better placement numbers in both categories).RParadela wrote:Oh shit really? I was thinking Duke pretty much followed suit from last year with fed clerkships.grades?? wrote:I don't know where you see that. The Duke numbers has 15.6% fed clerkship, and the UVA has 14.5%. So its higher for Duke in combined numbers and clerkship numbers too.RParadela wrote:1% point difference, but UVA has better clerkship numbers soUVA2B wrote:It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
Get unlimited access to all forums and topics
Register now!
I'm pretty sure I told you it's FREE...
Already a member? Login
- OneHandedEconomist
- Posts: 263
- Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:29 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Peer schools are peer.grades?? wrote:yeah, literally look at the first post of this thread. I would bet real money Duke's clerkship numbers is even higher next year. They hired two new clerkship people who have really done a wonderful job the past few years and now are really getting moving. Poor UVA's prestige (jk what prestige now that ol duke has better placement numbers in both categories).RParadela wrote:Oh shit really? I was thinking Duke pretty much followed suit from last year with fed clerkships.grades?? wrote:I don't know where you see that. The Duke numbers has 15.6% fed clerkship, and the UVA has 14.5%. So its higher for Duke in combined numbers and clerkship numbers too.RParadela wrote:1% point difference, but UVA has better clerkship numbers soUVA2B wrote:It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
- proteinshake
- Posts: 4643
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:20 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
no, Duke's numbers completely eliminates all of UVA's prestige.OneHandedEconomist wrote:Peer schools are peer.grades?? wrote:yeah, literally look at the first post of this thread. I would bet real money Duke's clerkship numbers is even higher next year. They hired two new clerkship people who have really done a wonderful job the past few years and now are really getting moving. Poor UVA's prestige (jk what prestige now that ol duke has better placement numbers in both categories).RParadela wrote:Oh shit really? I was thinking Duke pretty much followed suit from last year with fed clerkships.grades?? wrote:I don't know where you see that. The Duke numbers has 15.6% fed clerkship, and the UVA has 14.5%. So its higher for Duke in combined numbers and clerkship numbers too.RParadela wrote:1% point difference, but UVA has better clerkship numbers soUVA2B wrote:It's possible, but in my ego-driven defense, UVA numbers aren't out yet to prove that.grades?? wrote:So, Duke has better numbers than UVA (assuming that math was right), Cornell, and Harvard?
YSD confirmed
-
- Posts: 6478
- Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:46 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
.
Last edited by Alexandros on Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Posts: 323
- Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:24 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
So much for Penn's supposed advantage over the lower t14.
Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.
Register now, it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
- Po$eidon
- Posts: 300
- Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:03 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Yeah Cornell is just sailing around being like 'we're virtually the same boo'kingpin101 wrote:So much for Penn's supposed advantage over the lower t14.
- OneHandedEconomist
- Posts: 263
- Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:29 am
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
HYS is now DVPkingpin101 wrote:So much for Penn's supposed advantage over the lower t14.
- Po$eidon
- Posts: 300
- Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:03 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
CLS and NYU haven't done their thing yetOneHandedEconomist wrote:HYS is now DVPkingpin101 wrote:So much for Penn's supposed advantage over the lower t14.
-
- Posts: 323
- Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:24 pm
Re: Class of 2016 Employment Statistics by School
Well, NYU has been pretty TTT with this particular stat for a while now.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login