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 Post subject: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:45 pm 

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edit....


Last edited by jmaan on Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:50 pm 

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im gonna keep bumping this till i get some help..come on ppl!!


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:22 pm 

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another bump....help on this would be nice before i post my DS later...


please help guys...


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:27 pm 

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jmaan wrote:
another bump....help on this would be nice before i post my DS later...


please help guys...


Dude- u just posted this thread @ 6:45....that was like 40 minutes ago. 1- If you want meaningful feedback, you have to realize that these people are volunteering their time to help you, and reading a PS and giving a halfway decent critique requires atleast some thought/time.....and 2 you look annoying (forum etiquette on the interwebs dood) to keep bumping your own thread every ten minutes


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:28 pm 

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chicoalto0649 wrote:
jmaan wrote:
another bump....help on this would be nice before i post my DS later...


please help guys...


Dude- u just posted this thread @ 6:45....that was like 40 minutes ago. 1- If you want meaningful feedback, you have to realize that these people are volunteering their time to help you, and reading a PS and giving a halfway decent critique requires atleast some thought/time.....and 2 you look annoying (forum etiquette on the interwebs dood) to keep bumping your own thread every ten minutes


haha sorry man i guess im just anxious to get these apps out...thanks for the tip and I'll give at rest lol.


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:31 pm 

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jmaan wrote:
Since nobody bit on my first post I'll just post my PS..Thanks in advance for your help/comments and dont worry, brutal honesty won't hurt my feelings.

When I was five years old my paternal grandparents offered my mother a large sum of money to relinquish full custody to my father and sever all contact. In XXX (name specific culture) culture the oldest grandson must remain close to home to be a caretaker and heir. My mother was raised with a decidedly American (western??) sensibility and refused. My parents divorced over cultural differences and now my mother's former in-laws were bribing her to abandon her own child.

My mother kept her child and her pride, but I have often wondered if my life would have been easier had she taken the money. For the better part of my childhood, my mother tried her best to legally and physically keep me away from my father and his family. I don't resent her choices, but it was difficult to grow up with limited interaction with my father. I idolized the man, his wealth and ability to provide everything I wanted. I wanted to be with him, and to live the life I thought he would offer. My mother was a college dropout and struggled financially. We moved from boyfriend to boyfriend, from one crime-ridden neighborhood to the next. I was continually with relatives while she tried to figure things out.

I hated my circumstances and worked from a young age toward a goal of a better life. I devoted my time to sports in hopes of a professional career, and excelled academically knowing education was my fallback. School and sports (name specific sport) allowed me sanctuary when times got hard and I felt more and more removed from my adversity. I understand my mother's choices were responsible for our situation, but she always pushed me to do better and supported me in my aspirations.

My peers lacked my drive and parental support. When I left for college, I was the only one of my friends to going on to bigger things. The others were selling drugs, working at liquor stores to support their children or otherwise lacked ambition. I feel for the people I grew up with and others in similar situations. While I used to pity myself, I now know how fortunate I was have had a father, however absent, to look up to and a mother who supported me. Many of my peers were not as lucky.

In college I worked to give back to children in situations similar to my upbringing. I chaired a mentor program and worked with impoverished elementary school children, in hopes that I would be a role model. Through my university’s governmental relations department, I helped lobby and fundraise to lower the student fees that prevented lower class children from aspiring to a college degree. I participated in information sessions yp educate families on funding for college, even in dire financial situations. Working to increase the education rates amongst the poor is my way of giving back, and is a fulfilling passion. Obtaining a law degree may not solve these problems, but it will provide me a educational basis to affect real change. I have overcome my difficult origins and succeeded. I believe this drive will allow me to succeed throughout law school and my career


You seem like a good guy. Your passion comes through in the statement, and it is among the more compelling stories they will read. That said, the writing kind of sucks. I gave it a 10 minutes rewrite. Feel free is disregard. Hope that help. Good luck.


Last edited by jks289 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:34 pm 

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jks289 wrote:

You seem like a good guy. Your passion comes through in the statement, and it is among the more compelling stories they will read. That said, the writing kind of sucks. I gave it a 10 minutes rewrite. Feel free is disregard. Hope that help. Good luck.



Thanks man, ya I've never been a much of a writer...what kind of writing improvements are you thinking?...structure...grammer..vocab...all of the above??


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:37 pm 

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jmaan wrote:
jks289 wrote:

You seem like a good guy. Your passion comes through in the statement, and it is among the more compelling stories they will read. That said, the writing kind of sucks. I gave it a 10 minutes rewrite. Feel free is disregard. Hope that help. Good luck.



Thanks man, ya I've never been a much of a writer...what kind of writing improvements are you thinking?...structure...grammer..vocab...all of the above??


I just went ahead and did the edits in the space above. Read what I "quoted," it is different from yours. Your real issue is constant passive voice. 90% of the sentences should be active (really 100% but you can get away with a little bit). I would reread each sentence and ask myself if there is a clearer, easier, or more direct way to say it.


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:40 pm 

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k cool..thanks I'll definately get on that


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:57 pm 

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I didn't give it a super thorough read, but this draft reminds me a lot of how my statement was before I cut it up a billion times.

You really need to interject yourself into it more. The first paragraph is a description of your parents issues, not yours. I think you can get out the scissors and cut that down. I understand how you think it's important to include your second sentence, but it seems like unnecessary information to me... which adds up to a boring start (not trying to sound harsh). The personal statement is a chance to show why you're special, and I understand the difficulties of doing this through the lens of somebody else (it was my brother for my statement).

You also might want to use commas to help with the flow, some of the sentences are awkward without them. I'll try to reread it later and give you some more ideas.

Quote:
This reflection led me to really feel for the people I grew up with and others in similar situations.


Slang = bad


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:58 pm 

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Thanks, I really appreciate that advice...I'm gonna do a rewrite tonight


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:52 pm 

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Since you're on a rewrite, I'm not going to discuss writing style, but there is one main point that struck me:

In the interest of space and not making things more complicated than necessary/than helps you, I think I would leave out the section about money and grandparents. It is indeed an interesting introduction, but it brings up the question -- if your father's family wanted you so much and had the means and weren't afraid to cut your mom out of your life, why didn't your father get custody of you? There was definitely a strong suit for him, since 1. you idolized him and you were unhappy with the lifestyle with her, and, more importantly 2. he could provide you with a stable home while she was unable to, since she was financially unstable and living with a string of boyfriends in dangerous neighborhoods, periodically leaving you out of her care while she sorted through her problems. I think most courts would have awarded him custody -- granted, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know too much about this, but I have helped put together guardianship cases before and it seems to me that your dad would have had a strong case. Your mother does not come across as the most responsible parent here, which I understand is somewhat important, but at the same time, the emphasis you placed on your grandparents offering money for you makes me wonder -- why didn't they take that money to get a lawyer and win custody of you after she refused? And it also makes me wonder -- where does the part about the grandparents lead to? What was the point of that? Because it doesn't seem like your mom had a difficult life (and led you to have a difficult life) because she was so insulted by them.

Because the part about your dad and grandparents both raises a puzzling point and does not seem to add much to the case you make for yourself and the socio-economic situation you had to overcome, I think it detracts from your statement and I would leave it out. I would start simply with what is relevant -- your parents divorced when you were young, and while your father was a good man and you idolized him, you were primarily raised by your mother.


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 Post subject: Re: PS...comments..help..
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:47 am 

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this is an interesting story, shown through a dull lense. Your writing is very chronological, to the point where there is no other substance to it except the chronology. Try using some fun verbs. Use more active voice. In whole, focus more on how this affected you, and less on this removed perspective I get from reading it.

hope that helps. Not trying to be rude, just brutually honest. =)

Would you mind returning the favor? Mine is at

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=98967


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