My bad. Sorry I didn't know he was an admin. I just thought he was a normal poster. My apologies Corsair. My apologies TLS members.

I find this thread to be hilarious.

While I don't have a real problem with AA, I do think it is odd that individuals would be forbidden to discuss it. What does the rule seek to accomplish that could not better be done without the rule?

And prettypithy, your reasoning is terrible. It has been on other threads, and it is here as well.



Have you lived in a box all your life? White people would never get away with doing any of that.

As a warning to everyone. If you are going to post in the URM forum, post under your real name, not an alt. All alts will get an immediate ban.

Also there is no use in arguing why you think AA discussions should or should not be included. They just aren't. It's not going to change.

Edit: I made a mistake about IvyJustice. He is not an alt. Sorry Ivy.

UJac,

I think you are missing the general point of the title and Corsair's post. Corsair said,


and then Pyke said:



And the thread is NOT designed to be a place for Pyke to bring his AA rants. He thinks AA is unfair, we get it. The thing is, it is designed for URM students to get advice and post about what they need to do to get in at a school, which school to choose, etc. It is NOT for Pyke and others to tell evaluate the justness of a person's URM status relative to their admissions cycle.

utilitarian:
You're an idiot. The issue is that AA should be debated in the admissions forum, rather than this one. It is the same thing as saying that threads about LSAT belong in the LSAT forum, not in the admissions forum. It just keeps things organized, jackass.

Okay, sorry.

I misunderstood.

There's certainly no reason for you to be hostile.

Sorry to jump down your throat. I guess I was mad that people are incapable of understanding this, which at least you are, thank you.

But we do have a "white students association."

Wait, my reasoning is terrible because I live in a box? I fail to see how you have debunked my reasoning by calling me homeless. You should also read more carefully.




No, really, find it. I'll wait right here. Return with the link that demonstrates that Caucasian students at schools in this country do not have the right to organize. Take your time.

You can't be serious. A group called "White Student Association" is by its very name exclusionary. That is one of the things that minorities have fought against for so long, being excluded on the basis of race.

If a university were to allow such a group, people like you would immediately throw a fit. People would claim that the group was racist, bigoted, etc.

Whites at our school tried to make the group. It was met with violent opposition, and the group was shut down. It was made to make a point, and in a way it did.

You're both missing the nuance of the actual words I wrote. "People like you"? Thanks for that Jac. Try reading, eh? It will do your mind wonders.

I didn't see any nuance, what do you mean?

Please realize that I am not against either of you on this stuff. I firmly believe that AA debates can find their way into other forums but not this one, that's really all that I've been saying.

Edit: Ok, I do see it. I gotcha

Oh, I'm terribly sorry. Once I caught the nuance of the actual words you wrote, I came to understand. Your brilliance cleared away the confusion of my lowly mind.

All the schools around the world would love to start White Student Associations. They promise to be tons of fun. It's too bad you can't join.

How is "Black students association" not exclusionary?

No one said otherwise. It excludes non blacks. That's actually the whole idea. We're all in agreement about that. Surely no member of the black students association is saying that it is an all inclusive place for blacks and whites alike. No, it's for a target audience.

He did, or implied it anyway:

I didn't imply that a black student association was not exclusionary. It is, and minorities don't have a problem with that.

I was simply pointing out that a white student association would work the same way. it would be exclusionary, and minorities would have a problem with that.

Why? There are 'Irish American' groups that most blacks are probably not a part of, and nobody gets their panties in a twist. Furthermore, there are Latino groups, Christian groups, Black groups, etc that exclude minorities that don't happen to be in their minority, and nobody complains. Black people don't care that there is a Latino law group.

If you're in a subset of the legal field, and you feel that being in this subset makes your law school experience different or special in some way (e.g. being black, gay, Irish, or all three AT THE SAME TIME OMFG I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND), then it makes sense that you would want to share that experience with others who know what you're going through.

You *could* form a white group, but considering that law schools are overwhelmingly white, well, what's the point? If you wanted to make a political statement...whatever. You do that.

No.


Just.... no.