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 Post subject: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:12 pm 

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Does anyone know the accuracy of these rankings?

I decided to apply to BU based on them, and was wondering what other people thought.

edit: Just to give people some idea of what they are:

Great Teaching Faculties:

1. Boston University
2. University of Chicago
3. University of Notre Dame
4. University of Texas, Austin

Strong Teaching Faculties:

5. College of William & Mary
6. Cornell University
7. University of Virginia
8. Vanderbilt University
9. Washington & Lee University


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:21 pm 

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any thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:35 pm 

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Well, they are one man's opinion from 6 years ago, so I wouldn't take it at face value. Those are all good law schools, however, so I'm sure they do have a solid faculty staff.


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:47 pm 

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nycparalegal wrote:
any thoughts?


I would have went with this one, which boston isn't even listed:

http://www.leiterrankings.com/faculty/2 ... pact.shtml


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:52 pm 

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finalaspects wrote:
nycparalegal wrote:
any thoughts?


I would have went with this one, which boston isn't even listed:

http://www.leiterrankings.com/faculty/2 ... pact.shtml


There is a difference the above is, as Leiter wrote, "...a study that aims to identify the ten law faculties with the most "scholarly impact" as measured by citations during roughly the past four years."

The rankings that I posted are the following: "There is, alas, no reliable measure of teaching quality, even though it is an issue that is, correctly, of great interest to prospective students.? The closest we come (and it is not very close) are the national surveys of student satisfaction with teaching conducted by the Princeton Review conducted over the last half-dozen years or so"

However, as Leiter points out:

Quote:
"The clusters at least bear some relation to what one hears anecdotally, from faculty who have visited or taught at various schools and from students who transfer. (Yale is a bit of a mystery on this list, but the intimate nature of the place compensates for what is not famously high-quality teaching.)"


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:01 pm 

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nycparalegal wrote:
There is a difference the above is, as Leiter wrote, "...a study that aims to identify the ten law faculties with the most "scholarly impact" as measured by citations during roughly the past four years."

The rankings that I posted are the following: "There is, alas, no reliable measure of teaching quality, even though it is an issue that is, correctly, of great interest to prospective students.? The closest we come (and it is not very close) are the national surveys of student satisfaction with teaching conducted by the Princeton Review conducted over the last half-dozen years or so"

However, as Leiter points out:

Quote:
"The clusters at least bear some relation to what one hears anecdotally, from faculty who have visited or taught at various schools and from students who transfer. (Yale is a bit of a mystery on this list, but the intimate nature of the place compensates for what is not famously high-quality teaching.)"


yea i don't like the ranking that you posted because its completely subjective. students would have voted for their own professors and schools. the other rankings use at least some sort of factual statistics, the measurement of how many other professors cite them. they still may be horrible teachers but nonetheless


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:05 pm 

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It is subjective. That's why I wanted other peoples opinion on the matter.


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:07 pm 

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nycparalegal wrote:
It is subjective. That's why I wanted other peoples opinion on the matter.


unless a person went to all the schools listed and studied under each of the professors, how would they know? most people would have gone to one law school and they cannot judge at all the quality compared to other professors from other schools.

there are visiting professors but to judge them based upon a few lectures might make it even worse.

I think what you want to know is pretty much impossible...


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 Post subject: Re: Brian Leiter's The Best Teaching Faculties, 2003-04
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:34 pm 

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Your probably right. BU does have a good reputation for its teaching faculty, but otherwise I'm not even sure about the rest of the list.

However, there all ABA schools so they all teach the same thing.


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